Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/05/28

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Subject: Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Watches - can you provide advice orsites that
From: glehrer at san.rr.com (Jerry Lehrer)
Date: Mon May 28 15:15:28 2007
References: <20070528180139.EHDO1673.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> <027501c7a156$54d3e220$6401a8c0@xyw> <0c2c859297496345cf7cc3c01e8730c2@woh.rr.com> <BF45E7FA-D2EF-4662-A4EE-B7CCD1D046A8@pandora.be>

Phil,

So does Leica, Rolleiflex, Porsche, BMW, and Walther.  As does Nikon and 
Mitsubishi.  So what?

Jerry


Philippe Orlent wrote:
> BTW, Tutima has a bit of a WWII past...
>
>
>
> Op 28-mei-07, om 21:44 heeft Rob McClure het volgende geschreven:
>
>> One must be very careful buying new watches on the internet.  Most 
>> quality manufacturers won't permit their authorized dealers to sell 
>> directly over the net.  As a result the watches sold by online 
>> sellers like world of watches, amazon.com dealers, overstock.com, 
>> etc. are gray market.  This means they were obtained through backdoor 
>> deals in foreign countries from dealers, distributors and 
>> who-know-who...   Sometimes the watches are "Frankenwatches", made 
>> from different components or are factory returns.  Some sellers grind 
>> off the serial number so the origin may not be traced.  Usually these 
>> gray market watches carry an "international warranty" which is only 
>> honored by the seller or some other third party.  Some manufactures 
>> will not work on gray market watches.  Ebay is even scarier.  One of 
>> the Omega newsgroups monitors the Omega auctions and finds up to 
>> Omegas being sold are fakes.  I am sure other quality brands have the 
>> same issue.  Be careful out there!
>>
>> Rob McClure
>>
>>
>> On May 28, 2007, at 2:30 PM, A. Lal wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a price list from an unlikely source:
>>>
>>> http://www.overstock.com/search?keywords=iwc&resultsPerPage=100&taxonomy=sto4
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure if the warranty will apply if you buy from them, but you 
>>> may want to use this as a guide when negotiating with an authorised 
>>> dealer.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <vick.ko@sympatico.ca>
>>> To: <Thinkofcole@aol.com>; <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Cc: <vick.ko@sympatico.ca>; <glehrer@san.rr.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, 28 May, 2007 2:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Watches - can you provide 
>>> advice orsites that
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks to Bob and Jerry
>>>>
>>>> I just looked over the Tutima site - very nice.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a distributor near you so that you can look at the 
>>>> watches?
>>>>
>>>> There is no distributor in Canada, only the USA one.
>>>>
>>>> Vick
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Thinkofcole@aol.com
>>>>> Date: 2007/05/28 Mon PM 01:42:55 EDT
>>>>> To: lug@leica-users.org
>>>>> CC: glehrer@san.rr.com,  vick.ko@sympatico.ca
>>>>> Subject: Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Watches - can you provide advice 
>>>>> or sites that
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry, I, too, was just about to mention the Tutima for 
>>>>> Vick...It's in the
>>>>> same price and quality bracket as an IWC and some of the models 
>>>>> look very much
>>>>> like the IWC...Tutima also has some models around 36mm...Here's 
>>>>> one from
>>>>> Tutima's website...They say they never sell their stuff on the
>>>>> Internet...regards, bob cole
>>>>>
>>>>> _http://www.tutima.de/_ (http://www.tutima.de/)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________


Replies: Reply from philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent) (Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Watches - can you provide advice orsites that)
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Message from alal at duke.poly.edu (A. Lal) (Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Watches - can you provide advice orsites that)
Message from rmcclure2 at woh.rr.com (Rob McClure) (Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Watches - can you provide advice orsites that)
Message from philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent) (Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Watches - can you provide advice orsites that)