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Subject: [Leica] Improved M8?
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Tue May 29 13:10:07 2007
References: <052920071440.5890.465C3B7300053D7E00001702219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF970A9D9F9A0B9D09@mchsi.com> <3cad89990705290744k48c540e4nff7281ce85aa61f2@mail.gmail.com>

Just out of interest, Gene: what are your problems with the D200?
Thanks,
Philippe
>
> On 5/29/07, grduprey@mchsi.com <grduprey@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> Almost every m8 being shipped now has the firmware 1.102 in it.   
>> This has
>> fixed just about all the complaints, except the AWB problem.  You  
>> should be
>> shooting DNG for max image quality, and if so it is a non issue,  
>> just tweek
>> it if needed.  My experience is it is almost dead on 90+% of the time
>> anyway.  The UV/IR filters are being shipped, with a few  
>> exceptions, which
>> have not yet made it out of production cycle.  Even then you can  
>> get the
>> heliopan or other brands redily f rom photo suppliers.  The filter  
>> thing is
>> no different than using a UV filter, end of comment, just use them  
>> if you
>> shoot color, if you only shoot B&W, then forget the filter issue all
>> together.  Yes there are some other issues which still plague the  
>> camera,
>> but they are just teething problems which all new cameras have.   
>> Mine has
>> been flawless, bought in mid February.  My greatest problem with  
>> the m8 has
>> been getting used to the metering patten, which is quite different  
>> from my
>> m6ttl and Leica r cameras, !
>> but i h
>> ave just about got this licked.
>>
>> I have far fewer problems with the m8 than i do with the Nikon D200 i
>> have.  The biggest is it does not take Leica R lenses and there is no
>> adapter.  Nyone know of a camera repair that can modify the D200  
>> with a
>> Leica R mount, and does not cost a fortune?
>>
>> Chris, my advice is to go to your Leica dealer and buy the m8 and  
>> start
>> enjoying it.  And do as i do, by using Ted's advice and KISS.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> -------------- Original message from "Chris Birchenhall" <
>> chris@tarsier.freeserve.co.uk>: --------------
>>
>>
>> > Hi LUGers
>> >
>> > The current edition of the UK magazine Amateur Photographer  
>> (known as AP
>> in
>> > the UK) has a review of the "improved M8" by Damien Demolder who  
>> is also
>> the
>> > current editor of the AP. I am an admirer of Damien's reviews  
>> which tend
>> to
>> > be balanced and informed. I am still lurking on the M8 front so  
>> I read
>> this
>> > review with interest. The "improved M8" is essentially the M8  
>> with the
>> > latest firmware updates and IR filters. The review is something  
>> of a
>> mixed
>> > bag. On the one hand Damien is critical of the internet clamour  
>> about
>> the
>> > red casts and banding and he suggests even Canon had comparable  
>> teething
>> > problems. He continues "to their massive credit the people at  
>> Leica have
>> > openly acknowledged their faults and endeavoured to fix them".  
>> On the
>> other
>> > hand, Damien laments the continued lack of support for SDHC  
>> cards and is
>> > critical of newly introduced starbust effects on various  
>> highlights. He
>> > suggests these "effects are not ugly but they shouldn't be there."
>> >
>> > In his conclusion, Damien describes the IR filters "like sticking a
>> plaster
>> > over a wound that doesn't heal but stops bothering you", but  
>> goes on to
>> say
>> > he became comfortable with the filters after some use. He  
>> suggests the
>> AWB
>> > and JPEG mode are not as good as they could be and reaffirms his
>> > recommendation to use RAW to get the best out of the camera.
>> >
>> > I can finally note as an aside comment on one of his illustrations
>> Damien
>> > suggests there "is still a bias towards the red channel in this  
>> camera,
>> > which makes for dramatic black and white conversions".
>> >
>> > As I suspect I am not the only one lurking at the sidelines and
>> pondering if
>> > and when to buy a M8 perhaps M8 users or anyone with access to  
>> other
>> > commentators may like to respond to what I take to be a lukewarm  
>> review
>> by
>> > Damien.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >
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