Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/06/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Jun 23, 2007, at 12:26 PM, Leonard Taupier wrote: > Steve, > > The experts say the DR and the Rigid made at the same time ( 1956 - > 1968 ) are the same lens in formula and performance. so I have one further question and we can wrap this up.... are they in fact the same optically as the current !! summicron 50/2 and if not, how are they different... and yes I have read Puts and Gandy, and each time they seem more confusing, Steve > > Len > > > On Jun 23, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Steve Barbour wrote: > >> sorry Frank... >> >> >> this discussion is getting a little too deep for me... :-) >> >> >> is the cron 50 DR identical to the old rigid cron 50... of that >> era... >> >> >> or is it identical to the cron 50 which is available today ?... >> >> >> (as people say that the two are different from one another) >> >> >> >> thanks, Steve >> >> >> On Jun 23, 2007, at 12:11 PM, Frank Dernie wrote: >> >>> I mean contemporary with the one you own. >>> Frank >>> >>> On 23 Jun, 2007, at 13:49, Steve Barbour wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 23, 2007, at 12:49 AM, Frank Dernie wrote: >>>> >>>>> The contemporary >>>> >>>> >>>> thanks Frank... do you mean the contemporary from then or >>>> now.... ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>>>> rigid Summicron is identical to the DR, apart from the close >>>>> focus arrangement. If you like the look so much why not get one >>>>> of those as well? >>>>> Frank >>>>> >>>>> On 23 Jun, 2007, at 08:29, Peter Klein wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Steve: That was me. I had the idea of getting a cheap Rigid >>>>>> Summicron with bad glass and the correct focal length marked >>>>>> inside. The DR and Rigid lens heads unscrew from the mounts, >>>>>> so I thought I could put my DR lens head in the rigid mount >>>>>> for the M8, and still have the close range on film. I asked >>>>>> DAG about it, and he said that the mounts were different and >>>>>> it wouldn't work. But he also said that he could cut off the >>>>>> close focus part of the cam, and then it would work in the >>>>>> normal range on the M8. >>>>>> >>>>>> The unmodified DR does work in close-focus range on the M8. I >>>>>> know for sure, because I've tried it. When it's set in the >>>>>> normal range, the close-focus half of the cam sticks out too >>>>>> far, and it hits something inside the body when you try to >>>>>> mount it. I have read about this, and I have decided to >>>>>> believe it and not try it myself. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm still thinking about whether to have DAG do the >>>>>> "operation." It will depend on how much I like the 67mm >>>>>> equivalent length the 50mm turns into on the M8. And whether >>>>>> I want to desecrate a sacred object. Funny that I feel this >>>>>> way--I've used the close range all of twice since I got the >>>>>> lens. But another DR was my first Leica lens, way back in >>>>>> 1970. I really love how the DR draws, how it's made, how it >>>>>> feels. And it's a Wetzlar product from the Golden Age. So >>>>>> I'm reluctant to give the lens a "vasectomy" unless I'd really >>>>>> use it a lot on the M8. >>>>>> >>>>>> Decision postponed while I experiment with my other 50s. >>>>>> >>>>>> --Peter >>>>>> >>>>>> At 02:29 PM 6/21/2007 -0700, Steve Barbour wrote: >>>>>>> recall hearing that the cron 50mm DR can be modified, >>>>>>> so that it can be used on the M8 body... >>>>>>> maybe that was reported here... >>>>>>> if someone can substantiate this, and give me details, I'd >>>>>>> appreciate >>>>>>> it... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information