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Subject: [Leica] 'cron 50mm DR on M8
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Sat Jun 23 12:26:23 2007
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Steve,

The experts say the DR and the Rigid made at the same time ( 1956 -  
1968 ) are the same lens in formula and performance.

Len


On Jun 23, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:

> sorry Frank...
>
>
> this discussion is getting a little too deep for me...  :-)
>
>
> is the cron 50 DR identical to the old rigid cron 50... of that era...
>
>
> or is it identical to the cron 50 which is available today  ?...
>
>
> (as people say that the two are different from one another)
>
>
>
> thanks, Steve
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2007, at 12:11 PM, Frank Dernie wrote:
>
>> I mean contemporary with the one you own.
>> Frank
>>
>> On 23 Jun, 2007, at 13:49, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2007, at 12:49 AM, Frank Dernie wrote:
>>>
>>>> The contemporary
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks Frank... do you mean the contemporary from then or now....  ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>> rigid Summicron is identical to the DR, apart from the close  
>>>> focus arrangement. If you like the look so much why not get one  
>>>> of those as well?
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Jun, 2007, at 08:29, Peter Klein wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve:  That was me.  I had the idea of getting a cheap Rigid  
>>>>> Summicron with bad glass and the correct focal length marked  
>>>>> inside.  The DR and Rigid lens heads unscrew from the mounts,  
>>>>> so I thought I could put my DR lens head in the rigid mount for  
>>>>> the M8, and still have the close range on film.  I asked DAG  
>>>>> about it, and he said that the mounts were different and it  
>>>>> wouldn't work.  But he also said that he could cut off the  
>>>>> close focus part of the cam, and then it would work in the  
>>>>> normal range on the M8.
>>>>>
>>>>> The unmodified DR does work in close-focus range on the M8.  I  
>>>>> know for sure, because I've tried it. When it's set in the  
>>>>> normal range, the close-focus half of the cam sticks out too  
>>>>> far, and it hits something inside the body when you try to  
>>>>> mount it.  I have read about this, and I have decided to  
>>>>> believe it and not try it myself.  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm still thinking about whether to have DAG do the  
>>>>> "operation."  It will depend on how much I like the 67mm  
>>>>> equivalent length the 50mm turns into on the M8.  And whether I  
>>>>> want to desecrate a sacred object.   Funny that I feel this  
>>>>> way--I've used the close range all of twice since I got the  
>>>>> lens.  But another DR was my first Leica lens, way back in  
>>>>> 1970.  I really love how the DR draws, how it's made, how it  
>>>>> feels.  And it's a Wetzlar product from the Golden Age.  So I'm  
>>>>> reluctant to give the lens a "vasectomy" unless I'd really use  
>>>>> it a lot on the M8.
>>>>>
>>>>> Decision postponed while I experiment with my other 50s.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> At 02:29 PM 6/21/2007 -0700, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>>>>  recall hearing that the cron 50mm DR can be modified,
>>>>>> so that it can be used on the M8 body...
>>>>>> maybe that was reported here...
>>>>>> if someone can substantiate this, and give me details, I'd  
>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>> it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks, Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Replies: Reply from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] 'cron 50mm DR on M8)
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Message from Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie) ([Leica] 'cron 50mm DR on M8)
Message from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] 'cron 50mm DR on M8)
Message from Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie) ([Leica] 'cron 50mm DR on M8)
Message from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] 'cron 50mm DR on M8)