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Subject: [Leica] Summarit press release
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue Aug 7 07:18:33 2007
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On Aug 7, 2007, at 7:00 AM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> I'm with you, Frank on the 50 and the 90. Although I've never seen  
> the macro 90.
> I don't see the new range aimed explicitly at M8 owners. Seems to  
> me that everyone with an M8 wants new bleeding edge wides, not
> reprised modest aperture film camera focal lengths.


the summarits coming out rather surprise me as they are longer, 35  
and above, slower, and expensive...

most M8 people want wider than 35...and fast...
we won't talk about price...as it's wishful thinking in this realm...


Steve






> I think that all of these go head to head with the Zeiss designed  
> Cosinas. A flagship thing, maybe.
> I'd be very surprised if the new 28 was discontinued, more like  
> they can't make enough for the demand? Why wait, just invest in the
> Summicron!
> Rumours develop a life of their own thanks to the power of the net,  
> I must say I've never seen any info saying that it is to be
> dropped. It would be an instant collectible if so and priced  
> accordingly. I would love to read the reference from Herr Puts re a  
> new
> asph 50 Summicron; sounds like a winner, if true.
>
> Aah speculation, hours of entertainment in every thread.
>
> Cheers
> Hoppy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Summarit press release
>
> Hoppy, I agree with you that the used lens market does nothing for
> Leica....but it is a valid choice for users, and must be considered  
> as a
> competitor at least in the users minds..  and these Summarits  
> lenses are not
> that cheap.  They sell for about what a used lens of the same FL  
> and F2
> aperture sells for.....  If the market is truly for the M8 new  
> buyer, a $5K
> body purchase would establish the user as pretty well heeled.   
> Whether the
> lenses cost $1100-1500 or $2500 each, would probably not matter..  
> the  other
> choice is a $300 P+S.  Different class of user.
>
> Most used 35 NON ASPH Summicrons are $600-1K, so a new lens for $1K  
> is not a
> clear market  winner.  However, a used 35/1.4 is also around  
> $1K.... so to
> me the choice is a new F2.5 or a used 1.4 for my Thousand  
> bucks....I'd go
> for the light and get the used lens.
>
> The 75 is certainly a winner.  I have the 75Lux and it is heavy.   
> The 75
> Summicron is too $$$ by comparison.  A lighter lens would be  
> delightful at
> $1K or so.
>
> I don't see the position for the 50/2.5 that the 50 Elmar does not  
> fill
> already.  I think they would have done better with the 50 Summicron  
> ASPH at
> $1.5K.... Erwin has written that the lens is in the drawing  
> board.... maybe
> I will get my way?
>
> The 90 2.5 is lost.  It has no place to win, compared to the very  
> slightly
> more expensive new and pretty recent Macro 90/4 .
>
> What do I want from the 28/ASPH Elmarit?  Availability.  The recent  
> rumors
> it was discontinued made me jump into looking into purchasing  
> one....no luck
> so far.  For the market, it is the 35mm of the M8 crowd... so why  
> whack it (
> Tony Soprano reference)?.
>
> Frank Filippone
> red735i@earthlink.net
>
>
>
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