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Subject: [Leica] Summarit press release
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Tue Aug 7 08:12:00 2007
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I can't disagree with a single think Frank said. I have the macro 90  
and the 90AA. The macro 90 is my most used lens. It's wonderful and I  
think a must for any Leica shooter that takes a lot of flower shots.  
My 90AA is one of my least used.

I have the 75lux as well. A brute of a lens with wonderful  
performance, but not one I carry on field trips. I'm waiting for the  
new 75 Summarit. This one should be a winner.

I don't understand the 50mm. Its price and performance appear to be  
too close to the current Summicron. The lens formula appears to be  
similar as well. I'm seriously thinking about getting a new Elmar  
before they get discontinued.

I have no feeling about the 35mm. I'm thrilled with my cron asph.

I heard rumors about the new 28 asph as well. I heard production was  
stopped due to technical production issues. It would be a shame to  
discontinue that lens. It's a jewel which I think is now worth much  
more then the original price.

Len


On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:00 AM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> I'm with you, Frank on the 50 and the 90. Although I've never seen  
> the macro 90.
> I don't see the new range aimed explicitly at M8 owners. Seems to  
> me that everyone with an M8 wants new bleeding edge wides, not
> reprised modest aperture film camera focal lengths.
> I think that all of these go head to head with the Zeiss designed  
> Cosinas. A flagship thing, maybe.
> I'd be very surprised if the new 28 was discontinued, more like  
> they can't make enough for the demand? Why wait, just invest in the
> Summicron!
> Rumours develop a life of their own thanks to the power of the net,  
> I must say I've never seen any info saying that it is to be
> dropped. It would be an instant collectible if so and priced  
> accordingly. I would love to read the reference from Herr Puts re a  
> new
> asph 50 Summicron; sounds like a winner, if true.
>
> Aah speculation, hours of entertainment in every thread.
>
> Cheers
> Hoppy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Summarit press release
>
> Hoppy, I agree with you that the used lens market does nothing for
> Leica....but it is a valid choice for users, and must be considered  
> as a
> competitor at least in the users minds..  and these Summarits  
> lenses are not
> that cheap.  They sell for about what a used lens of the same FL  
> and F2
> aperture sells for.....  If the market is truly for the M8 new  
> buyer, a $5K
> body purchase would establish the user as pretty well heeled.   
> Whether the
> lenses cost $1100-1500 or $2500 each, would probably not matter..  
> the  other
> choice is a $300 P+S.  Different class of user.
>
> Most used 35 NON ASPH Summicrons are $600-1K, so a new lens for $1K  
> is not a
> clear market  winner.  However, a used 35/1.4 is also around  
> $1K.... so to
> me the choice is a new F2.5 or a used 1.4 for my Thousand  
> bucks....I'd go
> for the light and get the used lens.
>
> The 75 is certainly a winner.  I have the 75Lux and it is heavy.   
> The 75
> Summicron is too $$$ by comparison.  A lighter lens would be  
> delightful at
> $1K or so.
>
> I don't see the position for the 50/2.5 that the 50 Elmar does not  
> fill
> already.  I think they would have done better with the 50 Summicron  
> ASPH at
> $1.5K.... Erwin has written that the lens is in the drawing  
> board.... maybe
> I will get my way?
>
> The 90 2.5 is lost.  It has no place to win, compared to the very  
> slightly
> more expensive new and pretty recent Macro 90/4 .
>
> What do I want from the 28/ASPH Elmarit?  Availability.  The recent  
> rumors
> it was discontinued made me jump into looking into purchasing  
> one....no luck
> so far.  For the market, it is the 35mm of the M8 crowd... so why  
> whack it (
> Tony Soprano reference)?.
>
> Frank Filippone
> red735i@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
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