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Subject: [Leica] OT: Nikon FF D3
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Thu Aug 23 06:39:44 2007
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Hi Eduardo,  I have no plans to upgrade my D200 to the D300. I expect  
the noise to be a little better but I don't have a noise issue now.  
My interest would be in the D3. I'm primarily a Nikon shooter and  
have been since around 1966. Except for occasional film usage in my  
older film Nikons, my wide angles from 14mm up to the 17-35mm zoom go  
pretty much unused. I have 10 Nikkors in that range. I will also be  
able to use my 3 DX lenses, 17 manual focus lenses and 18 AF lenses  
on the D3. What other system can say that without using crippled  
adapters? I do use wonderful Leica R lenses on my two Canon bodies, a  
20D and a 5D. From time to time I do use my Nikon wides on the 5D  
though. I only have two Canon lenses.

Len




On Aug 23, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Eduardo Albesi wrote:

> Hi Len, I've already read those reviews, but cannot find any  
> substancial differences with the D200 as to force existing D200  
> users to upgrade. Perhaps the use of a CMOS instead of the classic  
> CCD is the one and only difference worth to explore.
>
> Ed
>
> El 23/08/2007, a las 09:24, Leonard Taupier escribi?:
>
>> Read the Nikon releases plus the D3 and D300 previews from  
>> DPreview, PopPhoto and Rob Galbraith. The DPreview on the D300 is  
>> especially good as it shows the new features compared to the  
>> existing D200. The D300 is not full frame. It is a substantial  
>> upgrade to the D200. Every writeup can be seen here.
>>
>> <http://www.nikonlinks.com/new_links.htm>
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2007, at 2:20 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>
>>>> Chris, is it known if the D300 will be a cropped format dslr or a
>>>> full frame camera?
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>> El 23/08/2007, a las 01:40, Christopher Williams escribi?:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like as of tomorrow 8/23, Nikon will show off a Full Frame
>>>>> dSLR D3. Rumor is it's a D2hs replacement at 12mp CMOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also a D300 12.3 mp will replace the 10mp D200.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Just out a few hours ago from nikon:
>>> "the D3 will be available from authorized Nikon Professional Dealers
>>> beginning in November 2007 for an estimated selling price of  
>>> $4,999.95**"
>>> http://press.nikonusa.com/2007/08/eight_years_after_changing_pro.php
>>>
>>> So for me it's an M8 to take advantage of my set of M glass and  
>>> love of
>>> rangefinder shooting or the D3.
>>> Which takes advantage of the nikon glass I've accumulated since  
>>> 1972 with my
>>> first F2. Many of them I couldn't sell for 50 bucks but I enjoy  
>>> using just
>>> the same and enjoy the quality it gives my images.
>>>
>>> I have a D200 but have been using a D40x very unprofessional but  
>>> I enjoy the
>>> compactness of it and carry it with me everywhere. Brought it to  
>>> the movies
>>> tonight with a 45mm P for pancake on it.
>>>
>>> Frankly I'm more interested in the D300 just out.
>>>
>>> " The D300 will be available from Nikon Authorized Dealers  
>>> beginning in
>>> November 2007 for an estimated selling price of $1,799.95**."
>>> 12.3 effective megapixel
>>> two new LiveView shooting modes that allow users to frame a  
>>> photograph using
>>> the camera?s high-resolution LCD monitor"
>>>
>>>
>>> " the D300 is capable of shooting at a rapid six frames per  
>>> second and can
>>> go as fast as eight frames per second when using the optional MB-D10
>>> Multi-Power Battery Pack. In continuous bursts, the D300 can  
>>> shoot up to 100
>>> shots* at full 12.3 megapixel resolution."
>>>
>>> " The D300?s LiveView feature offers two modes for confirming  
>>> subjects and
>>> composition on the new 920,000-dot, high-resolution 3-inch LCD  
>>> monitor while
>>> shooting."
>>>
>>>
>>> Frankly neither of these camera capture my imagination.
>>> I'm really happy with my D200 and D40x neither of which is broke  
>>> or wanting
>>> in any way I can figure out.
>>> I love these cameras.
>>> I can live without live view or a few more megapixels or a nice  
>>> big 3 inch
>>> screen which stays lit up.
>>>
>>> What I do have my ear attuned to is the sounds of a Leica DSLR being
>>> announced.
>>> Hopefully one with an tone for compactness not a monster.
>>> Or at least as small as my D200 which is not small. But not big.
>>>
>>> My first lens would be the 60 macro. I'd shoot everything with  
>>> that and
>>> proably get a crop circle factor making for a 90mm lens or  
>>> thereabouts.
>>> But I'd need a wide soon. How to swing a wide Leica zoom?
>>>
>>> Interesting to see how this might disenthrall me from my Nikons.  
>>> What it
>>> would take.
>>> A new bug free M9 might. Or M8.5
>>>
>>> I don't think a five grand full frame camera is going to do nikon  
>>> that much
>>> good for me soon or that many others. People not having already  
>>> having
>>> switched to Canon had a Kodak full frame option. A camera with  
>>> mixed reviews
>>> and maybe mixed results.
>>>
>>> Now a well heeled die hard Nikon commercial shooter has a full  
>>> frame modern
>>> option. I guess maybe that's good. I should check my heels I  
>>> think most of
>>> them are very well worn in. Should not have spent all my money on  
>>> shoes. And
>>> worn them all over town.
>>>
>>> I don't have one Nikon VR lens that's the new frontier for my  
>>> next windfall.
>>> That would make the biggest effect on my output.
>>> F 200mm at 15th of a second and be there.
>>>
>>> That and few big stacks of Hahnem?hle paper. With Blueberries.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Harlem, NY
>>>
>>> rabinergroup.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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