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Subject: [Leica] Unsworth w33/now expos comp M8
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll)
Date: Tue Sep 11 16:30:09 2007
References: <C30A2BE8.F9FB%lug@steveunsworth.co.uk><07E896C2-1F84-41D3-833D-7C123FC25190@cox.net> <9b678e0709111607i48508614se6f0551bb6d41994@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Don,

Very interesting and probably difficult to be used to be, I normally do the
contrary, I overpose slightly, for the shadows..., the old rule.

Still a change more of our times!

Saludos cordiales
Luis 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
Don Dory
Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 12 de septiembre de 2007 1:07
Para: Leica Users Group
Asunto: Re: [Leica] Unsworth w33/now expos comp M8

Steve,
I know this was directed at Tina, but I have had good luck underexposing two
stops and bringing the image to what I think the values should be in
Lightroom.  Routinely, I underexpose 1/3 stop to keep from blowing the
highlights.  So, when shooting the M8, err on the side of underexposure; if
the historgram starts at 125 and goes to the left you still can have an
outstanding image.

On 9/10/07, Steve Barbour <kididdoc@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Steve Unsworth wrote:
>
> > Hi Tina, normally I'd agree with you, but the M8 used a non-linear
> > 14 (or is
> > it 12?) to 8 bit compression algorithm when writing the DNG files 
> > that in my understanding puts more of the 'bits' into the shadows 
> > than the highlights.
> > So the old adage about exposing to the right doesn't work in the 
> > same way with the M8.
>
> let's us M8 users give it a whirl, does deliberate underexposure help 
> or hurt... ?
>
> and report back please....
>
> Steve
>
>
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On 9/9/07 22:53, "Tina Manley" <images@comporium.net> wrote:
> >
> >> At 05:35 PM 9/9/2007, you wrote:
> >>> The M8 has a pretty big dynamic range, especially in the shadows.
> >>> Recently
> >>> I've started using the camera with compensation of -1/3 of a stop 
> >>> to control any possible highlight blowing.
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve -  I used to do that, too, but after viewing a tutorial by 
> >> Jeff Schewe about digital photography and color management, I'm 
> >> having second thoughts.  He advises to be sure the histogram is 
> >> balanced to the right.  He says that highlights contain much more 
> >> recoverable information than shadows and that, even if the 
> >> highlights look blown in the preview, they can be recovered in RAW 
> >> files.  Overexposing slightly gives you much less noise in the 
> >> shadows.  He says always bias the exposure as far as you can to the 
> >> right without completely blowing out the highlights. The only time 
> >> you shouldn't follow this advice is when using high ISOs because 
> >> then you would just choose a lower ISO to get the same effect.  I 
> >> haven't experimented with this enough to know how it works, but I'm
going to try it.
> >
> >
> >
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Replies: Reply from jbm at jbm.org (Jeff Moore) ([Leica] Unsworth w33/now expos comp M8)
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