Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/09/24

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Subject: [Leica] R lens comparison
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Mon Sep 24 18:28:00 2007

Jack,

Part of the reason for the lower prices of R lenses, is that over the years, 
the R line has been somewhat of the Black Sheep or Unwanted Cousin to the M 
line.  Unfortunate for the popularity of the R system, but great for those 
of us who use it when it comes to used lens prices.

Gene

-------------- Original message from Jack Maddox <jmaddox01@suddenlink.net>: 
-------------- 


> Thanks to all (Mark, Hoppy, Chris,Gene } for your responses to the R 
> lens question. I am an avid eBay watcher. It seems to me that R lenses 
> lag behind rangefinder lenses in price. I was trying to ascertain if 
> this was because of image quality or just plain supply and demand 
> issues.I have delayed purchasing Erwins compendium long enough. I intend 
> to obtain and read it.Thanks for bringing it to my attention again. 
> 
> Jack 
> 
> Mark Rabiner wrote: 
> >> Jack, I recommend two books for you. 
> >> Erwin Puts Leica Lens Compendium is an excellent source of information. 
> >> For 
> >> Leica fans, I think definitely worth owning the hard 
> >> copy. Erwin's site reports that there may be a new book in the future. 
> >> The 
> >> current one was published by Hove, no longer in business, 
> >> but I think the book is still commonly available. You can download the 
> >> most 
> >> current version of the book (sans pictures) from Erwin's 
> >> site with a donation requested. http://www.imx.nl/photo/site_map.html 
> >> The smaller "Leica Pocket Book" also from Hove has good information 
> >> too, 
> >> including the MTF diagrams. I think that the 7th edition 
> >> from 2004 is the latest. One point that Erwin makes is that a number of 
> >> more 
> >> modern M lenses share common design and performance 
> >> attributes with their R cousins. Amongst the macros and telephotos for 
> >> the R, 
> >> some designs are apparently unsurpassed by any other 
> >> optics. People like Doug Herr and other owners and users of these here 
> >> on 
> this 
> >> list will be able to attest to that, I think. 
> >> 
> >> Cheers 
> >> Hoppy 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > Ewins book reads better than a 25 cent paperback thriller. You cant put 
> > it 
> > down. 
> > Shame he doesn't make any money on it I don't think when you buy one. 
> > The publishing company went under and its a mess so I read. 
> > 
> > Hope it gets picked up again and updated. 
> > So the very latest stuff is in there. Like the new tri Elmar. 
> > Love to hear about what he'd say about that. 
> > 
> > He raves about the old tri Elmar to an extent which is one of the few 
> > things 
> > I don't see eye to eye with in the book. Though I've never used one. It 
> > kind 
> > of leaves me cold. A huge f4 trying to be three lenses. 
> > I think of it as a "try Elmar". 
> > 
> > But a 
> > 16 
> > 18 & 
> > 21! 
> > 
> > That's two focal lengths Leica had not made yet. 
> > And an ultra wide not quite zoom but varifocal lens might be not such an 
> > incorrect term. 
> > 
> > Or 21-24-28 
> > 
> > Mark William Rabiner 
> > rabinergroup.com 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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