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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Indoor street photography - B&W Architecture
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Sat Oct 27 13:12:31 2007
References: <4723620C.7060501@gmx.de> <AF90F4C5-5832-4073-9112-A228A6DC5A79@pandora.be>

Philippe,
you have touched on parts of the problems I thought  lot about while 
processing them - however straight they are they never look quite right, 
I tried perspective, I tried skew, I even tried stretching the towers in 
all sorts of directions. I gave up after a lot of rejects and the result 
is what you see.
The one of the towers is , however , still a little unnerving, all the 
angles are correct but it just doesn't look right. I'm pretty sure it's 
not the fault of the lens, the Tokina 12-24 is an excellent piece of 
work, more likely to be something to do with how we "see" things.
Thanks for taking a look and your fascinating comments - food for 
thought indeed.
Douglas

Philippe Orlent wrote:
> Beautiful series, Douglas.
>
> Now, about the first one, and the car storage towers,
> Very strange effects on both: they are perfectly straight (I checked 
> this at large magnification, though it just being via your low res 
> jpegs) but they don't seem so optically.
> This causes imbalance.
> In the first one's case, this is due to an optical effect (dome vs 
> 'straight' chimney), and in the second one it's due to a light effect 
> (dark cilinders vs light on the forward one from the right).
> In both cases, it has a compositional effect: whether you choose to 
> keep this imbalance or not, is entirely up to you. You determine the 
> effect.
> And wether it 'd be imblanced or not, it's just two different but 
> equally acceptable ways of 'seeing' and 'presenting' this image.
>
> So, astonishing shots, that I'd love to see on a big and detailed print.
>
> Personally, I think that if you would PS the first one so that the 
> chimney would 'lean' a bit more towards the dome, and 'lean' the 
> towers a bit more to the right part of the image, you would take away 
> this imbalance, and attain a higher level of classical aesthetics.
> But that is just a matter of taste, and does not change my 
> appreciation of the shots at all.
>
> Beautiful tonalities, too BTW.
>
> Thanks for showing,
> Philippe
>
>
>
> Op 27-okt-07, om 18:06 heeft Douglas Sharp het volgende geschreven:
>
>> A few more from the VW site in Wolfsburg last weekend - this time in
>> black and white
>>
>> This is part of the house that Adolf built
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/105184-1/VW_Chimney.jpg
>>
>> This place is so large that people move around in groups, it makes you
>> feel slightly lost and nervous
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/105168-1/Herding_behaviour.jpg
>>
>> and people don't look at anyone else - the man was less than 3 feet away
>> when I stuck my camera more or less in his face
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/105171-1/Reception_Desk_2.jpg
>>
>> This is where the new cars are stored
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/105181-1/VW_Towers.jpg
>>
>> This is where customers can watch them being "extracted"
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/105178-2/VW_Tower_2.jpg
>>
>> Hope you enjoy looking at them more than we enjoyed our visit  - if
>> you're only there to pick up your new car 4 to 5 hours there is more
>> than enough.
>> Cheers
>> Douglas
>>
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