[Leica] Just what does EX on *bay mean anyway?

[hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)]

Not even vaguely EXy. I'm not sure if you have any recourse if the faults 
were described in the ad? However some sellers, especially
big ones with good reputations may allow a return as a goodwill gesture 
anyway. If the loose element and cleaning marks were not
described I think that you have a legitimate claim. No returns means nothing 
if the item is substantially not as described.
I think that I wouls start with a polite note to the seller. 
That's the Bay for you, like Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Best of luck 
resolving this one.
Cheers
Hoppy

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [Leica] Just what does EX on *bay mean anyway?

I just received a lens from a reputable store that held a recent auction on
the *bay.
 
The lens was described as "EX" with a "slight mark" on the lens.
 
I just re-read the description of the "slight mark" on the lens. 

The slight mark is a surface gouge that is over 1/8 inch long  and is 1/2
inches from the rim - i.e. not close to the edge. 
 
And there are additional defects on the lens, particularly that the lens
surfaces are full of cleaning marks and there is something loose inside the
lens.  In fact, it sounds like a lens element is loose.
 
So is that "EX" to you?

The auction states "no return".  

Is there any recourse?  
 
..Vick