Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/11/19

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Subject: [Leica] Erwin Puts tests the summarits
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)
Date: Mon Nov 19 16:47:19 2007
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Jeffery, it may be that the language suffers a little in that English would 
not be Erwin's primary language, of course. We're lucky
to have the reviews available in English, I think. I wish I had a good grasp 
on languages other than my native tongue.
Cheers
Geoff

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Leica] Erwin Puts tests the summarits

Sometimes I wish he was more descriptive with his reviews. When he tells me
that a lens I am planning to buy "invites sympathy" at f/3.5, it seems like
a positive spin on a negative attribute.

On Nov 19, 2007 4:54 PM, Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> Nothing personal but I have to defend Erwin here because he is not on
> this list anymore
>
> Erwin has assured me that he is not paid by Leica. He does btw has a
> normal day job as a business consultant
> I have met him several times, as have others here on the list. I'm sure
> he is integer and he is a very nice person too.
> He has a wealth of (inside) knowledge and also does criticize leica as
> he thinks it is appropriate.
> He has not been treated very well here on the list by some people, which
> in my opinion is very shameful.
> You might not agree with him, or you may not like the way he writes but
>  in my opinion he is fully reliable in his testing and his book on
> Leica lenses is an all time classic which I consult very often.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michiel Fokkema
>
> Steve Barbour wrote:
> > as all lenses are a compromise,  these are a bigger compromise than most
> > for Leica...
> >
> > We have to wonder what Erwin gets from Leica for writing these lens
> > tests and reviews...
> >
> > hence, I'm not too sure he can be an objective and independent testing
> > service...
> >
> > but it's fun to read the stuff,
> >
> > fwiw...
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 19, 2007, at 3:25 PM, slobodan dimitrov wrote:
> >
> >> Or maybe Leica just threw in the towel, on the basis that their
> >> previous optics are beyond the capabilities of their current client
> base.
> >>
> >> Slobodan D.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Birchenhall wrote:
> >>
> >> Michiel
> >>
> >> Thanks for the link. Sounds like Leica have hit a happy balance with
> >> these new lenses.
> >>
> >> Chris B
> >>
> >> On 18/11/2007, Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> >>> http://www.imx.nl/photo/lenstest/summarit_lenses_part_one_no.html
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Michiel Fokkema
> >>>
-- 
Jeffery L. Smith
New Orleans, LA





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