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Subject: [Leica] IMG: daughter by candle light
From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)
Date: Wed Dec 26 12:54:28 2007
References: <4cfa589b0712242109h5b8200bcm3371e7bccdc514b2@mail.gmail.com> <0JTO00305AD0J330@l-daemon>

I'm honored you took the time to write up such a detailed response,
Ted. Thank you very much. I'll work to put it into practice next time!

Thank you so much for sharing your art.

Best regards and the joy of the season to you!

Adam Bridge


On Dec 26, 2007 12:03 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Adam Bridge showed:
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> >>Subject:daughter by candle light
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> >>My daughter Margaret by candle light. Five I think.
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> <http://www.adam-bridge.com/Images/Margaret%20Christmas%20Eve%20Color.jpg>
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> <http://www.adam-bridge.com/Images/Margaret%20Christmas%20Eve.jpg>
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> M8, noctilux, ISO 640, f1.0<<<<
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> Hi Adam,
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> At f1.0 that's living dangerously at anytime to have the focus point right
> on the mark particularly in very low candle light. A highlight becomes the
> absolute point to focus on as a form of focus aid. That is if there were 
> one
> on her left eye or glasses frame.
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> Focusing  at high noon with a ND filter and asa 100 or 50 to achieve the 
> use
> of f.1.0. that's easy, certainly for neat out of focus backgrounds & 
> getting
> rid of clutter.
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> A couple of things for the next time providing your daughter is in a
> co-operative mood. :-)
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> What you have here is a broad side of her face and neck which in this case
> is a no-no.  You need to slim down her face rather than showing the flat
> broad cheek side we see here.
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> By turning her head towards you to the point where she's turned her eyes as
> we see here, would've narrowed her face and neck physically. Making her
> slimmer looking.
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> And I think the light to her right would've been more of a skim light 
> across
> her right shoulder and side of her head. again a kind of narrowing effect.
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> The B&W is too dark so we loose what little detail there is and becomes an
> unflattering picture. Besides quite often when working in candle light or
> lower, unless the light is more of a rim lighting look, B&W doesn't work.
>
> Where in the colour shot the lights and colour add a positive effect due to
> the colour. In B&W it just falls flat on it's face.
>
> Anyway a thought for the next time. Just think narrowing face and neck and
> have the model sit 45 degrees to her right as here with the head turned
> towards straight into camera as we see her eyes in this photo. This sitting
> position will create a narrowing effect and the light would've added a
> better effect by also narrowing.
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> Hope I've made this understandable because if we were standing right there
> it would take all of 2 minutes and you'd see exactly what I mean.
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> ted
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In reply to: Message from abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge) ([Leica] IMG: daughter by candle light)
Message from tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant) ([Leica] IMG: daughter by candle light)