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Subject: [Leica] It's a film camera! Rangefinder at that!
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Sat Feb 2 10:16:41 2008

My old Kodak folder has rangefinder focussing.

Gene

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>
>
> Daniel, I'm not familiar with older folders with coupled rangefinders. I 
> shall 
> hit Google, thanks. The Voigtlander and Zeiss Ikon
> Nettar I have here have no rangefinder nor metering.
> The linkage to the front, which looks to be relatively flimsy, I assumed 
> was 
> just for retraction as on the folders I have here. I'm
> struggling to imagine how the coupled rangefinder you mention works. Do 
> you have 
> a model number I can search on for one of the
> originals?
> Regarding the metering, look at the dial on top nearest the viewfinder. It 
> looks 
> to have provision for ISO rating and also an A
> setting? A leaf shutter, as you say, ruins my TTL theory. Any non TTL 
> metering 
> implies a linkage, fascinating.
> Off this topic, I note Fuji's choice in very Nordic Booth babes in the 
> article! 
> Oh and no less than three new DSLRs from Sony.
> Cheers
> Geoff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Daniel Ridings
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2008 17:30
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] It's a film camera! Rangefinder at that!
> 
> On Feb 2, 2008 8:22 AM, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > Richard, I hadn't looked closely enough. It is a rangefinder! I see no 
> > possible way this could be linked to the (tabbed) focus ring with a 
> > folding 
> bellows in between.
> 
> You see that stabilizing arm extending from the body out to the lens head? 
> It 
> might be able to slide in and out, thus pushing a
> rangefinder mechanism here and there.
> 
> > The old originals of course were just focussed by guess applied to the 
> > focus ring distance scale manually.
> 
> No, the Agfa's (later a Commie Iskra model), Zeiss-Ikon's and others had 
> coupled 
> rangefinders.
> 
> 
> > For exposure control I would guess that the lens is set exactly as per 
> > an M, then the shutter speed is adjusted via the dial on top (complete 
> > with A 
> setting). An Auto setting implies that the metering
> is TTL!
> 
> Who needs an exposure meter on one of these? I doubt seriously that it can 
> be 
> TTL. That would be assuming it has a focal plane
> shutter and it obviously has a leaf shutter. They open and close when you 
> take 
> the shot, so they are not letting any light through
> until then. It would be over-kill to have TTL with such a mechanism.
> 
> Daniel
> 
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