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Subject: [Leica] Not buying a Hummer
From: raimo.m.korhonen at uusikaupunki.fi (Raimo K)
Date: Tue Mar 11 14:10:11 2008
References: <43921C55D698E3ABFA957676@hindolveston.reid.org> <C3FC536A.94730%mark@rabinergroup.com> <23a0a61f0803111310w1c68021bne053d53ac83bac58@mail.gmail.com> <a3f189160803111320x4b6b2b97q97b60ff396686d27@mail.gmail.com> <4DAC958D-0879-48E9-8FC7-B4104B1FBF9A@mac.com>

According to a study by Volkswagen, IIRC about 80 % of the energy used 
by a car during its lifetime is from the fuel. Manufacturing takes about 
15 % and 5 % goes to making the fuel.
So it pays making cars more fuel efficient.
All the best! Raimo


Lottermoser George wrote:
> I believe that some of these studies take into account the entire life 
> of the vehicle, as Doug mentioned, from smelting the metals to 
> disposal of the heap at the end of its usefulness. Which, from an 
> environmental point of view - certainly makes sense. if we truly cared 
> about the environmental impact of our lives and our stuff - we'd get 
> very serious about how to keep our tools (and vehicles) running and 
> performing for a life time or two. Was a time when a tradesman's tools 
> wore out about the time the tradesman wore out. My grandfather was a 
> cabinet maker. His auger and crank drill were about done when he died 
> (he didn't own a power tool). All of his planes are still quite useable.
>
> Fond regards,
> George
> george@imagist.com
> www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07
>
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
>
>> On 3/11/08, simon jessurun <simon.apekop@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I read a study that a H1 is actually less of a burden on the 
>>> environment
>>>  then a prius because of the batterypack.
>>
>>
>> Does that really make sense to you Simon?   Think about it.
>>
>> Toyota Prius II Battery Pack uses 38 prismatic NiMH modules. Each
>> module consists of  six 1.2 V cells connected in series. The module
>> has a nominal voltage of 7.2 V,  capacity of 6.5 Ah, weighs 1.04 kg,
>> and has dimensions of 19.6mm(W) x 106mm(H) x  275mm(L).
>>
>> Lab data says it  can go 290,000km  without degradation.
>>
>>  Read this:
>>
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/fingerlakespermaculture@lists.mutualaid.org/msg00223.html
>>  
>>
>
>
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