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Subject: [Leica] Leica R-10 at Photokina 2008
From: leica at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig)
Date: Thu May 8 00:07:45 2008
References: <050720082322.17500.4822399C0008E26B0000445C219791332903010CD2079C080C03BF970A9D9F9A0B9D09@mchsi.com> <92a2c1a4786d3f6c7b683419d8bd59ba@mail.nine.ch:993 ssl> <200805080751.m487pYYQ054578@mail.imagecraft.com>

I also believe the image circle of the R lenses must have a tolerance which 
goes beyond 24x36. But the more you stretch the image size in that circle, 
the more vignetting, and corner softness, you risk. I could imagine a two 
size solution aka Nikon D3/D2x as Mark mentioned. This would implicate the 
introduction of a new lens line, though, a thing which I'm not shure if it 
would make sense (economically), and would somehow degrade the existing 
R-lenses. Maybe they'll release just some extra XXL superfast primes?
D.


>They may still be able to do that if the R lens were designed with a larger 
>image circle to begin with. For example, I know for sure that the Summicron 
>50 R covers a good portion of the XPan frame.
>
>Certainly, for argument sake, if the majority of the R lens cover a larger 
>image circle than the 24x36 frame, then for them to release such a camera 
>will be a good selling point. If the base price is at least $7000 (R9+DMR), 
>then adding a few millimeters here and there in the sensor for another 
>$1000 make sense.
>
>May be they will have a selective image ratio builtin, dial for 2/3, 4/3, 
>square, XPan'ish etc. Sure people can crop in the end, but if that's the 
>ideal solution, then everyone would be shooting square format in the first 
>place :-)
>// richard 



>>No. 36x36 fills a larger circle than 24x36.
>>Look this sketch I made once when the discussion was about the same topic:
>>http://mogool.com/transfer/pythagoras.gif
>>Didier



>>> They could very easily go to a 36x36 and keep the current lenses.
>>> Gene





In reply to: Message from grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com) ([Leica] Leica R-10 at Photokina 2008)
Message from leica at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] Leica R-10 at Photokina 2008)
Message from richard-lists at imagecraft.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] Leica R-10 at Photokina 2008)