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Subject: [Leica] The War on Photography by Bruce Schneir
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sun Jun 15 09:37:29 2008
References: <200806141202.m5EC2Dcm027268@server1.waverley.reid.org> <3B147B8AEE5F2048A061C8A5B603B731EB8A@exchange.microassist.local>

On Jun 14, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Sanjay Nasta wrote:

> Forgive the long post, I thought it was worth a read


amen, thanks Sanjay...Steve


>
>
>  The War on Photography
>
>
>
> What is it with photographers these days? Are they really all
> terrorists, or does everyone just think they are?
>
> Since 9/11, there has been an increasing war on photography.
> Photographers have been harassed, questioned, detained, arrested or
> worse, and declared to be unwelcome. We've been repeatedly told to  
> watch
> out for photographers, especially suspicious ones. Clearly any  
> terrorist
> is going to first photograph his target, so vigilance is required.
>
> Except that it's nonsense. The 9/11 terrorists didn't photograph
> anything. Nor did the London transport bombers, the Madrid subway
> bombers, or the liquid bombers arrested in 2006. Timothy McVeigh  
> didn't
> photograph the Oklahoma City Federal Building. The Unabomber didn't
> photograph anything; neither did shoe-bomber Richard Reid. Photographs
> aren't being found amongst the papers of Palestinian suicide bombers.
> The IRA wasn't known for its photography. Even those manufactured
> terrorist plots that the US government likes to talk about -- the Ft.
> Dix terrorists, the JFK airport bombers, the Miami 7, the Lackawanna 6
> -- no photography.
>
> Given that real terrorists, and even wannabe terrorists, don't seem to
> photograph anything, why is it such pervasive conventional wisdom that
> terrorists photograph their targets? Why are our fears so great that  
> we
> have no choice but to be suspicious of any photographer?
>
> Because it's a movie-plot threat.
>
> A movie-plot threat is a specific threat, vivid in our minds like the
> plot of a movie. You remember them from the months after the 9/11
> attacks: anthrax spread from crop dusters, a contaminated milk supply,
> terrorist scuba divers armed with almanacs. Our imaginations run wild
> with detailed and specific threats, from the news, and from actual
> movies and television shows. These movie plots resonate in our minds  
> and
> in the minds of others we talk to. And many of us get scared.
>
> Terrorists taking pictures is a quintessential detail in any good  
> movie.
> Of course it makes sense that terrorists will take pictures of their
> targets. They have to do reconnaissance, don't they? We need 45  
> minutes
> of television action before the actual terrorist attack -- 90  
> minutes if
> it's a movie -- and a photography scene is just perfect. It's our
> movie-plot terrorists that are photographers, even if the real-world
> ones are not.
>
> The problem with movie-plot security is it only works if we guess the
> plot correctly. If we spend a zillion dollars defending Wimbledon and
> terrorists blow up a different sporting event, that's money wasted. If
> we post guards all over the Underground and terrorists bomb a crowded
> shopping area, that's also a waste. If we teach everyone to be alert  
> for
> photographers, and terrorists don't take photographs, we've wasted  
> money
> and effort, and taught people to fear something they shouldn't.
>
> And even if terrorists did photograph their targets, the math doesn't
> make sense. Billions of photographs are taken by honest people every
> year, 50 billion by amateurs alone in the US. And the national  
> monuments
> you imagine terrorists taking photographs of are the same ones  
> tourists
> like to take pictures of. If you see someone taking one of those
> photographs, the odds are infinitesimal that he's a terrorist.
>
> Of course, it's far easier to explain the problem than it is to fix  
> it.
> Because we're a species of storytellers, we find movie-plot threats
> uniquely compelling. A single vivid scenario will do more to convince
> people that photographers might be terrorists than all the data I can
> muster to demonstrate that they're not.
>
> Fear aside, there aren't many legal restrictions on what you can
> photograph from a public place that's already in public view. If  
> you're
> harassed, it's almost certainly a law enforcement official, public or
> private, acting way beyond his authority. There's nothing in any
> post-9/11 law that restricts your right to photograph.
>
> This is worth fighting. Search "photographer rights" on Google and
> download one of the several wallet documents that can help you if you
> get harassed; I found one for the UK, US, and Australia. Don't cede  
> your
> right to photograph in public. Don't propagate the terrorist
> photographer story. Remind them that prohibiting photography was
> something we used to ridicule about the USSR. Eventually sanity will  
> be
> restored, but it may take a while.
>
> Incidents and anti-photography campaigns:
> http://nycphotorights.com/wordpress/?p=110 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://nycphotorights.com/wordpress/?p=110
>  
> >
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7351252.stm 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7351252.stm
>  
> >
> http://www.allensphotoblog.com/blog1/2007/09/photography_terrorism.html 
>  
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.allensphotoblog.com/blog1/2007/09/photography_terrorism.html
>  
> >
> or http://tinyurl.com/4owutd 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/4owutd
>  
> >
> http://flash.popphoto.com/blog/2007/06/the-crime-of-ph.html 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://flash.popphoto.com/blog/2007/06/the-crime-of-ph.html
>  
> >
> http://flash.popphoto.com/blog/2007/10/the-crime-of-ph.html 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://flash.popphoto.com/blog/2007/10/the-crime-of-ph.html
>  
> >
> http://flash.popphoto.com/blog/2007/09/the-crime-of-ph.html 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://flash.popphoto.com/blog/2007/09/the-crime-of-ph.html
>  
> >
> http://flash.popphoto.com/blog/2007/11/the-crime-of-ph.html 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://flash.popphoto.com/blog/2007/11/the-crime-of-ph.html
>  
> >
> http://www.episcopalcafe.com/daily/war_and_peace/every_day_diplomacy.php 
>  
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.episcopalcafe.com/daily/war_and_peace/every_day_diplomacy.php
>  
> >
> or http://tinyurl.com/3x5f6c 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/3x5f6c
>  
> >
> http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/14/bb-reader-two-fbi-ag.html 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/14/bb-reader-two-fbi-ag.html
>  
> >
> http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2008/05/almost_arrested_for_taking_photos_at_uni.html
>  
>  
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2008/05/almost_arrested_for_taking_photos_at_uni.html
>  
> >
> or http://tinyurl.com/6dq3ea 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/6dq3ea
>  
> >
> http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2008/05/union_station_photo_follies.html
>  
>  
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2008/05/union_station_photo_follies.html
>  
> >
> or http://tinyurl.com/5rp2zb 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/5rp2zb
>  
> >
> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Antiterror_police_defend_campaign_targeting_suspicious_behaviour_of_people_with_cameras_news_195594.html
>  
>  
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Antiterror_police_defend_campaign_targeting_suspicious_behaviour_of_people_with_cameras_news_195594.html
>  
> >
> or http://tinyurl.com/28qq9x 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/28qq9x
>  
> >
> http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/ 
> 0,23739,23553587-952,00.html 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23553587-952,00.html
>  
> >
> http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2006/02/10/askthepilot173/index.html 
>  
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2006/02/10/askthepilot173/index.html
>  
> >
> or http://tinyurl.com/4x7v8z 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/4x7v8z
>  
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/arts/design/20shat.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1210125984-qrPPfpI/kDlEi+wMrOvtEA
>  
>  
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/arts/design/20shat.html?_r=1%26adxnnl=1%26oref=slogin%26adxnnlx=1210125984-qrPPfpI/kDlEi%2BwMrOvtEA
>  
> >
> or http://tinyurl.com/5w9c3n 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/5w9c3n
>  
> >
> http://lightchasersphotography.com/blog/how-to-shoot-photographs-like-a-terrorist/
>  
>  
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://lightchasersphotography.com/blog/how-to-shoot-photographs-like-a-terrorist/
>  
> >
> or http://tinyurl.com/58qz56 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/58qz56
>  
> >
> http://www.memphisflyer.com/memphis/Content?oid=oid%3A41348 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.memphisflyer.com/memphis/Content?oid=oid%253A41348
>  
> >
>
> "Nonsense":
> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/03/uk-politician-c.html 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/03/uk-politician-c.html
>  
> >
>
> Fake terrorist plots in the US:
> http://www.schneier.com/essay-174.html 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.schneier.com/essay-174.html
>  
> >
>
> Movie-plot threats:
> http://www.schneier.com/essay-087.html 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.schneier.com/essay-087.html
>  
> >
>
> Data on photographs in the US:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/05/fashion/thursdaystyles/ 
> 05photos.html 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/05/fashion/thursdaystyles/05photos.html
>  
> >
>
> Photographers' rights:
> http://www.sirimo.co.uk/ukpr.php 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.sirimo.co.uk/ukpr.php
>  
> >
> http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm
>  
> >
> http://www.kantor.com/blog/2005/12/legal-rights-of-photographers/ 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.kantor.com/blog/2005/12/legal-rights-of-photographers/
>  
> >
> http://www.artslaw.com.au/_documents/files/StreetPhotographersRights.pdf 
>  
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.artslaw.com.au/_documents/files/StreetPhotographersRights.pdf
>  
> >
> or http://tinyurl.com/6kyc7m 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/6kyc7m
>  
> >
>
> A comment from someone who trains security guards:
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/06/the_war_on_phot.html#c275864 
>  
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/06/the_war_on_phot.html%23c275864
>  
> >
> or http://tinyurl.com/6on7tr 
> <https://exchange.microassist.net/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/6on7tr
>  
> >
>
> This essay originally appeared in The Guardian:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jun/05/news.terrorism
>
>
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