Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/06/20

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Subject: [Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Fri Jun 20 07:49:05 2008
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Chris,

In practical use the vignetting may not be objectionable. But It's a  
big problem for my Camera Shop owner. He's had 4 or 5 of these lenses  
returned by D3 users as unacceptable because of it. I use mine for  
landscapes and to me it is a problem.

Len


On Jun 20, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Chris Williams wrote:

> Pick up a PDN magazine, and you'll see ad stock,wedding images, and  
> commerical shots all have one thing in common. They all have  
> darkened corners now. I don't think the vignette is really an issue.
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Taupier"  
> <len-1@comcast.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR
>
>
>> Frank,
>>
>> In the case of the 10.5mm fisheye, the image you get on a full  
>> frame digital camera or a film camera looks kinda like a clearly  
>> defined keyhole in the middle of the frame. Other DX lenses like  
>> the 18-200  zoom do not fill the frame at the wide end. The 1.5x  
>> crop with these  two lenses is the only practical solution if you  
>> have a large number  of photos to process. You are not losing  
>> information with the crop  because there is none to lose.
>>
>> The vignetting I mentioned is on full frame, older lenses, like  
>> the  AFS 17-35mm when used on the D3. The vignetting on this lens  
>> is  unacceptable for a professional lens which this is. To a  
>> lesser  degree the AFS VR 70-200 lens has the same problem.
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 12:12 AM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>
>>> I guess that while your explanation makes perfect sense, in  
>>> practice:
>>> if I have the choice of either having a bigger file with more  
>>> data  in it to
>>> decide later, on my computer screen what I want to crop,
>>> why would I want to initially crop in the camera and maybe miss  
>>> something in
>>> the heat of shooting?
>>>
>>> Vignetting in easily cropped out later...... which is the issue   
>>> with DX
>>> lenses used on an FX body ( if I have the nomenclature correct...)
>>>
>>> I am still missing something.....
>>>
>>> Frank Filippone
>>> red735i@earthlink.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The reason to publish FX and DX specs is the full frame Nikons can
>>> use the Nikon Dx lenses that were released before the full frame
>>> cameras came out. The D3 can automatically switch to DX mode when
>>> these lenses are used. Nikon hardly ever obsoletes their lenses. As
>>> Chris mentioned he can use his 10.5 MP fisheye on his D3 even though
>>> it was designed for the 1.5 X crop bodies.
>>>
>>> Len
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 19, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>>
>>>> Question:
>>>>
>>>> There appears to be a trend to publish the image (pixel) sizes of
>>>> the image
>>>> both for FX and DX formats....
>>>>
>>>> Why would any rational person use a DX ( smaller) format if he  
>>>> had  the
>>>> larger format available to him?  ( It is called cropping..... in  
>>>> old
>>>> fashioned speak)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Replies: Reply from leicachris at worldnet.att.net (Chris Williams) ([Leica] Re: "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR)
In reply to: Message from alal at duke.poly.edu (A. Lal) ([Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR)
Message from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR)
Message from len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier) ([Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR)
Message from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR)
Message from len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier) ([Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR)
Message from leicachris at worldnet.att.net (Chris Williams) ([Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR)