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Subject: [Leica] Any opinions/experience with the Zeiss 4/18mm? For Nathan...
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Fri Nov 21 13:53:24 2008
References: <153A26F5-30DD-4F8B-898F-6F3482B6E536@hintlian.com>

Michael do you mean that the ZM 18 is large compared to the very compact 4.5
21? I don't find it heavy or unbalancing at all. I don't use it as a
walkaround lens, which may be what you mean?
Nathan is familiar with 'crop factors' of course (1.97 on his current
cameras) 
<http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/91238284>
http://tinyurl.com/6kv8bf
Still the M8 with this lens is a much more compact package than he currently
has. He does have a plan to assist with the weight.

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can.

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [Leica] Any opinions/experience with the Zeiss 4/18mm? For
Nathan...

Nathan...

I shot an M8 for well over a year before I chose to sell it...a decision I
knew I would regret but for reasons of pure economics and professional
requirement I went with it.  The two lenses I used exclusively with this
camera were the 28/2 Leica and the new 21mm 4.5 Zeiss (for M).  The 21mm is
petite and balances really well with the Leica...it makes a better profile
in the hand and on camera will easily fit under a jacket.

The 18 is big, it throws the balance of the camera waaaay off in my
opinion...I played with it enough to know while a really good lens it wasn't
for me.  I would add in much of the conversation about 35mm lens equivalents
with the M8 chip needs to be taken with a grain of salt.  Its only an
approximation...a 21mm lens is still a 21mm even though it becomes "like" a
28 on an M8.  So if 24mm is a favorite focal length in 35mm, you may be
happier with a 21mm vs. the 18.  On the M8 the 21 gives you a bit wider than
a 28 (in 35mm terms) with slightly deeper perspective.  Its an amazingly
good lens...as good as any Leica lens I've used.  The max aperture of f4.5
is not a real handicap with the availability of higher ISO's in camera.

As an editorial let me add that the M8 1250iso image quality is far superior
to any film, it just doesn't look like the equivalent Canon camera file
everyone compares the M8 to...like it or not Canon seems to have become the
tastemaker in this game.  To my eye the Canon files look plastic and much
like TV...and I'm using 5D's for all my commercial work...they're amazingly
good for that but less useful for personal work.  Recently I traveled in
Central America for a month working on an immigration story, I carried only
an M8 and two lenses (and a Mac and 2 external h/d's in a backpack), the
camera put up with a lot of abuse and did not miss a beat.  It was an
amazingly useful companion and  I couldn't be happier with the results.

And so I too will look for the right coincidence of  income and opportunity
to get back into the M8 game...with what I know already its an easy
decision.

Hope this helps.

Best,

Michael Hintlian









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