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Subject: [Leica] OT: Michael Collins, was Gun Photos
From: imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry)
Date: Mon Dec 8 16:54:35 2008
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"Marc James Small" <marcsmall@comcast.net> wrote
>>>>>>>>>
Thank you.  Collins was not especially close to
Childers -- the two men were VERY far apart in
origin and class -- and I have a lot of
difficulty seeing Collins ever visiting Childers
save in the course of military
movements.  Collins did not visit country houses
as did those of Childer's background.

Again, the challenge is to Sunny's assertion that
Collins had a special attachment to County
Wicklow and regarded the folks there as somehow
superior to those in the other parts of
Ireland.  Let's stick to the matter in
discussion, windmills being a bit off the subject.
<<<<<<<<
Ahh, the Sage of Roanoake hath spoken. We should all fall to our knees in 
wonderment.

Sadly you haven't countered Sonny's point of view with any supporting 
evidence. The Irish Volunteers were made up of many people of both sexes who 
came from widely differing backgrounds and class, but had one unifying 
trait - an unwavering belief in Irish nationalism. Your dismissal of the 
links between Collins and Childers may be satisfactory to you, but fail 
miserably at convincing me. It is all very well to be trenchant, but to be 
trenchant from a pulpit made of smoke, quite frankly, beggars belief.

T?g go bog ? <grin>

Douglas
Just back on the green sod of auld Eireann having been away scaring the 
populace of Rome with a film camera. You can't beat a Leica M3 as a 
travelling companion 


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