Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/20

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Subject: [Leica] S2 Lenses MTF & Resolutions
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sat Dec 20 20:22:00 2008
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Frank are you trying to suggest that pros can't benefit from superb image 
quality?  There's no budget for premium equipment and results for high end 
projects? Hasselblad et al might disagree with you. So does this amateur 
obviously.
I hope that our pros do weigh in. What field are you in? I'm no pro but 
everything I have read on upmarket work such as fashion suggests that there 
is very much a market and money out there for equipment in the S2 budget 
area. In fact I would think that it is relatively cheap for that bracket.
I wish I was dedicated enough and talented enough to break into that area. 
My idea of serious pro work.
Cheers
Geoff

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i@earthlink.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] S2 Lenses MTF & Resolutions


> My $0.02
>
> Why would a Industrial customer ( including a magazine) want superb image
> quality when the images to be printed, in a magazine or newspaper,  are
> 8x11?  Or even 17x11 ( double page spread) ?    Good enough is good
> enough.... and spending more on something no one can see nor the printer 
> can
> print is downright wasteful.  Corporations are not into waste.  Portrait
> Pros?  How many portraits ( % of the total portrait market, including
> wedding ) go bigger than 8x10/11x14 and demand quality above  the big time
> Canon or Nikon cameras?  Not much.
>
> ( I will not mention the fact that for really great, really HIGH end
> photography, there still is Film in sizes to 11x14...... ).
>
> I think that the market for the S2 is only one.... well heeled amateurs.
> And Leica is  going after them..........
>
> All the hoopla about extra superb image quality is probably true, and the
> Pro attitude is to convince amateurs that they can achieve that "quality 
> of
> a Pro" by using the S2.  All of which may be true.  But to be really true,
> the Pros would NEED to use the S2 in their jobs.
>
> I doubt it....
>
> We have a bunch of pros on this list.... how many of you NEED to use the 
> top
> rated Hasselblad or Sinar, or whatever cameras to produce images your
> customer base requires?  Canon and Leica DMR or M8 and Nikon need not
> respond...... you are the "normal" quality......
>
> The difference is perception vs need.
>
> Pros... how about a reasonable assessment of your customer 
> base......??????
>
> Need or perception?  What percentage demand quality above all else?  Cost 
> be
> of secondary importance..........by far......
>
> Frank Filippone
> red735i@earthlink.net
>
>
> Steve , in my opinion, the purpose of the S2 is to offer a superb medium
> format LEICA system at the top of the quality tree for pros.
>
>
>
>
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Replies: Reply from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] S2 Lenses MTF & Resolutions)
In reply to: Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] S2 Lenses MTF diagrams)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] S2 Lenses MTF diagrams)
Message from richard.lists at gmail.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] S2 Lenses MTF diagrams)
Message from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] S2 Lenses MTF & Resolutions)
Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] S2 Lenses MTF & Resolutions)
Message from red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] S2 Lenses MTF & Resolutions)