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Subject: [Leica] Film Scanner Suggestion
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sat Dec 27 00:45:45 2008
References: <23A7D1E76319444BA96F159496DDF4BB@dadquad> <C57B4CBF.47294%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark I have the Coolscan V which is essentially the 4000. I used it for a
couple of years (maybe a couple of thousand scans at maximum optical
resolution) and just checking around 1000+ of those photos shared with the
LUG. I found it worked very well for me with slide film with the Nikon
software. Despite numerous experiments and techniques I was never completely
satisfied with scanning my black and white negatives and usually found the
apparent reproduction of the grain clumps to be prominent and objectionable.
One theory was that it was an anti-aliasing effect. Clearly you have got
yours working to your satisfaction. All of the prints of mine that you have
were from scans with my scanner and I have printed a number of 13x19s from
400ISO film that pleased me. Ditto numerous from Fuji Pro slide film scans.
In any event the optical resolution is exactly the same as with the 5000 but
there are no doubt many over factors that come into play, including the
scanning head (and lens). I listed differences (that presumably are in the
specs) because I thoroughly researched all of the options before buying the
scanner I have and Richard asked what the specific differences were. However
now its mainly a place to stand my coffee cup now on my crowded computer
desk. Even the 5000 is five year old technology now however there are
unlikely to be any higher end replacements emerge anytime soon. Unless you
have the budget for a Flextight!




Cheers
Geoff Gearhead
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can.

-----Original Message-----

Subject: Re: [Leica] Film Scanner Suggestion

Yes except you're reading the specs and I'm talking about actual hands on
and extensive use corroborated by other people who had the same experience
with it. The 5000 scans the grain and gives you a good idea of the grain
quality.
The 4000 you don't even get the grain at all.

The scans I'd make would not just be for uploading to a website page.
It would be for printing often up to 13x19.
I have a whole portfolio of 13x19 inkjet prints.
Many from scans.

Mark William Rabiner



> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:49:35 +1000
> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Film Scanner Suggestion
> 
> Well the maximum optical resolution is actually the same.
> Theoretically the dynamic range is larger.
> The scans are almost twice as fast.
> The A/D convertor is higher bit.
> Batch scan is apparently actually functional.
> Better multi-pass function too, however Vuescan will give you that if 
> of interest.
> The 4000 is reincarnated as the V which is essentially the same, minus 
> the bulk feed options.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
> Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2008 09:38
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Film Scanner Suggestion
> 
> Resolution is the first thing.
> With the 5000 you can get the grain patter of them film and have it 
> look a bit like what it really looks like like with a darkroom print.
> With the 4000 you are not getting the grain pattern of the film.
> Even grainy tri x. you are not scanning the grain.
> You get an image.
> But not composed of the grain from the neg like you would with a 
> darkroom print.
> 
> With the 5000 you can do that. Certainly with not even grainy tri x.
> 
> With fine grain stuff not so much.
> 
> The 5000 puts the 4000 in the stone age.
> 
> I'd not even give my 4000 to someone I didn't like.
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Richard Man <richard.lists@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:05:57 -0800
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Film Scanner Suggestion
>> 
>> To be honest, I have actually heard about that. Can you enlighten me 
>> which areas are better? Dynamic range? Usability? Details?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well I moved from the 4000 to the 5000 and I found it to be a huge 
>>> improvement. As did several other photographers who did so.
>>> 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // b: 
>> http://rfman.wordpress.com
>> 
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