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Subject: [Leica] Canon 800mm IS
From: sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner)
Date: Sun Dec 28 03:27:28 2008
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Jim, try the 400/6,8 Telyt, MUCH handier, same image quality and only a bit 
lower magnification.

Seth

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Laird" <digiratidoc@gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Canon 800mm IS


> George,
>
> My bad. But they are stunning. I'd still like any luger's opinion of
> the 400 5.6L. I've also considered the 560 6.8 Telyt but they seem to
> be in very short supply and I just don't know if I could get used to
> carrying that cannon around. Still considering.
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Lottermoser George <imagist3@mac.com> 
> wrote:
>> Wish I could do as well;
>> but,
>> not my images Jim.
>> I only found them in a search
>> for better examples from the 800.
>>
>> Fond regards,
>> George
>>
>> george@imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 27, 2008, at 5:34 PM, James Laird wrote:
>>
>>> George,
>>>
>>> Absolutely stunning images!
>>>
>>> I'll never be in you're league but have been contemplating a Canon 400
>>> 5.6L for my 40D to try my hand at bird photography and wondered if
>>> you've used one and what you think of it. I'ts not the 800 but it's
>>> one-tenth the price and in my budget.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Lottermoser George <imagist3@mac.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here's the first one I found - wide open
>>>> <http://www.pbase.com/martinisabelle/image/106665049>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fond regards,
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>> george@imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 27, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Lottermoser George wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's a better example of the lens's possibilities:
>>>>> <http://www.pbase.com/martinisabelle/image/105425263>
>>>>> and
>>>>> <http://www.pbase.com/martinisabelle>
>>>>> where 800 is indicated
>>>>>
>>>>> Fond regards,
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>> george@imagist.com
>>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 27, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Leonard Taupier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You're right Doug. While I'm primarily a Nikon SLR user, I bought a
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> EOS 1DS MK II to use with my 560mm Telyt. This combination gives me
>>>>>> beautiful results. I have since purchased Canon's 400mm f4 DO and 
>>>>>> 1.4X
>>>>>> extender which also gives me beautiful results. Since I already had 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> full
>>>>>> frame body (This was before the D3 and D700), I started looking at 
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the better Canon L lenses to carry with me. I am fortunate that my
>>>>>> dealer
>>>>>> lets me try anything I want. I have since had to pass on 4 L lenses I
>>>>>> tried,
>>>>>> including the 24mm f1.4, the 16-35mm f2.8 and the 24 -105mm lenses. I
>>>>>> did
>>>>>> get the 35mm f1.4L lens which I find very nice. I almost passed on 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 400mm
>>>>>> DO lens as well. I tried a used one from my dealer which I found had
>>>>>> low
>>>>>> contrast. A week later he let me try a new one. It was nothing like 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> first one. It had excellent contrast and high resolution. I bought 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>  I
>>>>>> don't know if this kind of variability is common but it's certainly
>>>>>> scary
>>>>>> for a lens that cost over $10,000. which is the case with the 800mm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Len
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2008, at 10:57 AM, wildlightphoto@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leonard Taupier wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This lens is getting glowing reviews from the Fred Miranda site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm beginning to question the value of user reviews particularly 
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> the user's quality standard, techniques and intended use are 
>>>>>>> unknowns
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> may differ from mine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An example is the user reviews of the EF 24mm f/1.4 L on FM and B&H
>>>>>>> where it seems many are awed by the fast aperture and are willing to
>>>>>>> forgive
>>>>>>> weaker image quality at the faster apertures and the expectation of
>>>>>>> cherry-picking dealer's (or importer's) stock to find one of the
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> samples, and give the lens a very high rating.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At any rate I expect that with the right conditions and technique 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> 800mmm f/5.6 IS can deliver much more than the sample photos
>>>>>>> demonstrated.
>>>>>>>
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