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Subject: [Leica] Erwin reviews new Summilux
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Sat Jan 31 23:58:22 2009
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They have said all along that they would produce a full frame camera when it 
became practible. ?So why make a reduced coverage set of Digital lenses? 
?The Summarits and 28 Elmarit Asph, and the new 24/3.4 are all priced at a 
lower more reasonable price range similar to the Zeiss lenses. ?No need to 
make cheaper Digital lenses.


Gene? -------------- Original message from Ric Carter <ricc@embarqmail.com>: 
--------------


> Surely a cheaper, smaller Leica lens could be produced for the M8  
> since the circle of coverage would be smaller. It would have at least  
> those two advantages.
> 
> Still, we see and hear only of compatible (read full 35mm  frame)  
> lenses.
> 
> So, maybe this indicates that Leica sees a full 35mm frame sensor in  
> its future?
> 
> Ric Carter
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/ricc/
> 
> 
> On Jan 31, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> 
> > No, no, no, no Mark.
> > No because they already make a new range of extremely compact modest
> > aperture lenses, the Summarits.
> > Those are tiny, relatively cheaper and have nearly all of the  
> > performance of
> > the other modern designs but still covering your full 35mm crop  
> > circle.
> > No because the M8 sensor capturea a stunning amount of information  
> > from
> > their best glass already.
> > No because the resolution of the M8 sensor is already appropriate if  
> > you
> > want to go mathematical and calculate crop circles of confusion.
> > No because any 'DX' lens would be useless on the film Ms that Leica  
> > still
> > makes.
> > No because any 'DX' lens would  be useless on any future 35mm sensor M
> > camera.
> >
> > The extra capability mentioned with the Elmar 24 for example is the
> > performance in the outer field which is not recorded by the M8 'crop  
> > circle'
> > Performance in the extrem corners is pretty academic.
> >
> > Did I mention no? ;-)
> >
> > 2009/1/31 Mark Rabiner 
> >
> >> These super lenes by Leica to be used at a fraction of a fraction  
> >> of its
> >> capabilities on an M8 with a 1.33 crop factor its enough but not  
> >> quite
> >> enough to get someone to shoot film.
> >>
> >> Leica could make some killer DX lenes for the M8.
> >> Incredibly sharp compact glass designed for the 1.33 crop circle  
> >> factor.
> >> Film shooters are getting to be the tip of the iceberg of a niche.
> >>
> >> A niche niche.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > Weather is here, wish you were beautiful
> >
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