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Subject: [Leica] Leica and leather M8 NOISE ?
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Mon Feb 23 10:20:20 2009
References: <7ablht$30mera@pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca>

Tell him to put it in a padded blimp like those used for movie cameras - 
I'd like to see some pictures of how people react to that :-)

If anyone can hear a Leica above the general noise level in any major 
city, it must be about 2 centimetres away from the subject's ear - even 
I would give somebody a dirty look if he got that close - he'd probably 
learn some German words he wouldn't have learned at school too.

Douglas

Ted Grant wrote:
> Gene offered:
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>>> Over on the LUF there is a guy who swears that people on the streets of
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> Hi Gene,
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> On the streets of New York? Really? My goodness I've never been in New York
> when it would be that quiet on any street!  I fear this chap is ignoring 
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> fact he the user is creating the attraction by physically moving the camera
> about and drawing attention to himself through his body arm motion rather
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> Being of a senior age I might tell this chap face to face he's full of
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> It might be interesting to see the pictures he took where he's drawn
> attention to himself via the "click" of the M8. The paranoia of New York 
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> people with a camera may also be creating his receiving "dirty looks and
> harsh words!" 
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> If Mark "the Rabiner" were to see this post I'm sure he could shed some
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> ted
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> grduprey@mchsi.com
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:17 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica and leather
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> I also feel this is a problem only with the user.  I have yet to have 
> anyone
> look at me or make a comment on the sound from my M8.  Over on the LUF 
> there
> is a guy who swears that people on the streets of NY have given him dirty
> looks and made harsh remarks as to the noise from his M8.  I have tried 
> this
> on the streets of Chicago and not a single person heard or remarked about
> the camera noise.  Even I could not hear it on the city streets.  As for my
> experience in Europe, not a single person looked at me due to noise from 
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> M8 in 3 months.  Forget the 'noise problem' and buy the camera and enjoy
> using it.
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> Cheers,
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> Gene
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>  -------------- Original message from "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca>:
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>>>> The other day I was yet again trying out an M8 and I wondered if  
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>> anyone has used an M8 with one of Luigi's half cases. My question is  
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>> Short of waiting for my hearing to fail as my eyesight already has, I  
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>> I can't make any comment about leather, noise and lusting women. :-) But
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>> Besides we are more in tune with "listening for the noise" because it has
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>> listening for it. or hearing it in an imaginary increased level. I
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>> related" camera. This is a location you will be "nuked on the spot for a
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>> Trust me this is a woman who has "RADAR HEARING ABILITIES!"  Her response?
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>> Dr. ted  "An avid M8 user!" 
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>> _______________________________________________
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