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Subject: [Leica] Leica and leather M8 NOISE ?
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Mon Feb 23 18:27:45 2009
References: <022320091616.22911.49A2CBF50001632E0000597F223245003003010CD2079C080C03BF970A9D9F9A0B9D09@mchsi.com> <7ablht$30mera@pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca>

 
Hi Ted,


Yes I could not believe his rant as I could not hear my ?M8 on the city 
streets of Chicago, which I told him of my experiences. ?You are probably 
right that his actions were the problem.


Gene -------------- Original message from "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca>: 
--------------


> Gene offered:
> 
> >> Over on the LUF there is a guy who swears that people on the streets of
> NY have given him dirty looks and made harsh remarks as to the noise from
> his M8.<<<<<
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Gene,
> 
> On the streets of New York? Really? My goodness I've never been in New York
> when it would be that quiet on any street!  I fear this chap is ignoring 
> the
> fact he the user is creating the attraction by physically moving the camera
> about and drawing attention to himself through his body arm motion rather
> than any sound from an M8.
> 
>  
> 
> Being of a senior age I might tell this chap face to face he's full of
> whatever comes to ones mind!
> 
>  
> 
> It might be interesting to see the pictures he took where he's drawn
> attention to himself via the "click" of the M8. The paranoia of New York 
> and
> people with a camera may also be creating his receiving "dirty looks and
> harsh words!" 
> 
>  
> 
> If Mark "the Rabiner" were to see this post I'm sure he could shed some
> light on this chaps New York negative comments.
> 
>  
> 
> ted
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> grduprey@mchsi.com
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:17 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica and leather
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> I also feel this is a problem only with the user.  I have yet to have 
> anyone
> look at me or make a comment on the sound from my M8.  Over on the LUF 
> there
> is a guy who swears that people on the streets of NY have given him dirty
> looks and made harsh remarks as to the noise from his M8.  I have tried 
> this
> on the streets of Chicago and not a single person heard or remarked about
> the camera noise.  Even I could not hear it on the city streets.  As for my
> experience in Europe, not a single person looked at me due to noise from 
> the
> M8 in 3 months.  Forget the 'noise problem' and buy the camera and enjoy
> using it.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gene
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  -------------- Original message from "Ted Grant" :
> --------------
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> > John Collier offered:
> 
> > 
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> >  
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> > 
> 
> > >>The other day I was yet again trying out an M8 and I wondered if  
> 
> > 
> 
> > anyone has used an M8 with one of Luigi's half cases. My question is  
> 
> > 
> 
> > not if it drives the opposite sex into a frenzy of barely contained  
> 
> > 
> 
> > passion, no doubt a useful side effect, but whether it helps dampen  
> 
> > 
> 
> > the noise.
> 
> > 
> 
> >  
> 
> > 
> 
> > I distressed the camera sales person no end but waving the camera  
> 
> > 
> 
> > about while shooting -- even held it behind my back. The noise is  
> 
> > 
> 
> > really only objectionable to the shooter. Held away and its just fine.  
> 
> > 
> 
> > Short of waiting for my hearing to fail as my eyesight already has, I  
> 
> > 
> 
> > was hoping the half leather case might take the edge off a bit.<<<<<<<<<<
> 
> > 
> 
> >  
> 
> > 
> 
> > Hi John,
> 
> > 
> 
> > I can't make any comment about leather, noise and lusting women. :-) But
> I,
> 
> > like you, believe the shutter-winder noise of the M8 is more bothersome 
> > to
> 
> > the photographer with it in hand, than subjects.
> 
> > 
> 
> >  
> 
> > 
> 
> > Besides we are more in tune with "listening for the noise" because it has
> 
> > been bitched about by many. Therefore it makes all of us more attentive 
> > to
> 
> > listening for it. or hearing it in an imaginary increased level. I
> recently
> 
> > used mine during a concert by the Boston Philharmonic Orchestra and if 
> > one
> 
> > wishes to live dangerously about noise with an M8 or any other "noise
> 
> > related" camera. This is a location you will be "nuked on the spot for a
> 
> > camera click!"
> 
> > 
> 
> >  
> 
> > 
> 
> > Shooting during a concert by an orchestra of this caliber where attendees
> 
> > have amazing hearing in relation to every tiny breath, not one person
> 
> > sitting around me said a word or gave me an annoying facial expression of
> an
> 
> > unmentionable type, it would be very offending if spoken. :-) My wife was
> 
> > sitting beside me and before the concert began I tripped a few frames to
> see
> 
> > what her reaction was for sound. 
> 
> > 
> 
> >  
> 
> > 
> 
> > Trust me this is a woman who has "RADAR HEARING ABILITIES!"  Her 
> > response?
> 
> > "Nope didn't hear a thing!" When I made the first exposure during play
> time
> 
> > I felt myself cringe as the shutter winder were doing their thing. Not a
> 
> > head turned nor did hair stand on the back of anyone's neck! Other than 
> > my
> 
> > own, as I expected heads to turn and fry me on the spot! :-)
> 
> > 
> 
> >  
> 
> > 
> 
> > My gut feeling is, far too many M8 shooters are overly concerned about 
> > the
> 
> > "so called noise factor" than subjects. So far I've not had a complaint
> from
> 
> > anyone about noise accept photographers themselves.
> 
> > 
> 
> >  
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> > 
> 
> > Dr. ted  "An avid M8 user!" 
> 
> > 
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> >  
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> > 
> 
> > _______________________________________________
> 
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> 
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> 
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