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Subject: [Leica] Why Leicas with Nazi symbols should be trashed,
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:52:52 +0200
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Jayanand, some of us who care do in fact boycott companies whose  
misbehaviour is particularly egregious. In the 1970s many of us  
boycotted Nestle, for example, because of its insidious marketing  
practices for baby formula in the 3rd world etc. Following Exxon's  
deplorable behavious following the Exxon Valdez oil spill I would  
rather run out of petrol than buy at an Exxon/Esso station etc.

As for the swastika, I do realize that it is an ancient Hindu symbol,  
but I always thought that in that version it is 45% rotated compared  
to the Nazi version? At least that is the way it is in Copenhagen,  
where it adorns two of the four stone elephants at the entrance to the  
Carlsberg brewery. Those were made in the 19th century and have been  
left as they were, although the guides showing you around are somewhat  
embarassed.

Cheers,
Nathan

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On Jul 1, 2009, at 5:25 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:

> Douglas,
> I am sure that an ordinary Hindu would not mind carrying a camera  
> with a
> swastika at all - in all probability, he will be totally ignorant of  
> the
> Nazi connection. There are a lot of Hindus, Buddhists and Jains in the
> world!
>
> Its all a question of the winners who write history and influence the
> thinking of the succeeding generations - the 'good' guys and the  
> 'bad' guys
> is only your point of view, it is seldom very clear cut, except to a
> propaganda machine. Mao killed a lot more of his citizens than  
> Hitler did,
> but none of us think twice about buying Chinese made goods,  
> essentially made
> under the same regime. Don't you have the same revulsion when you  
> walk into
> Wal Mart?
>
> Multinational firms have traditionally been remarkably free of ethical
> considerations relative to the boss' bonus, i.e. the bottom line. A  
> lot of
> the consumer items you buy have been made in Gulag like working  
> conditions
> all over the world. There are companies who have marketed infant  
> food in
> Asia & Africa that had been banned in Europe and the USA. Food  
> grains are
> destroyed and burnt to keep prices up for farmers, rather than send  
> it free
> to the hungry all over the world.  Is that not revolting? Will you  
> boycott
> such companies/regimes? Or just pay lip service?
>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Douglas Nygren <dnygr at cshore.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> In an age when people wear labels as if they were branded, why  
>> would any
>> sane person want to be seen holding a camera with a Swaktika on it?
>>
>> These cameras are damaged goods pure and simple. It's not the  
>> cameras'
>> fault. Cameras made at the same time but do not bear bear the  
>> Swastika don't
>> bear the burden of the symbol as much.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
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