Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/10/30

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Subject: [Leica] M9 improvements
From: red735i at earthlink.net (Frank Filippone)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:36:45 -0700
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Hey, if you don't speak your mind, the status quo continues.... and God
knows, our beloved M8 cameras will be upgradeable forever......Right!

Daniels has the company line to speak and repeat.  He does so well.  Yes,
the M8/M9 are .68 VF cameras.  Does that make it a) right, b) customer
driven, c) the only choice Leica had d) my or your choice?  I don't think
there is history that says.. they could have, customers had no say, not my
choice or preference.  YMMV.

They did not do a higher mag VF for some reason.. what that real reason is,
is Leica's secret..... and they ain;t telling us.

What I get upset at is the incessant statement that it can not be done.  Or
that there is no one that wants a higher mag VF.,... I do.  I liked my M3
finder ... .91 and all that.  Sure, it was useless if you had a 35mm lens on
( without eyes) but it was a wonderful shoot with a 50......Both eyes
open..... remember what is was like to not  get a headache if you were
following the action with your M3, with both eyes..... so that you could see
the action come into your frame?

Sure it can be done.  They already did it... the .85 and .58 M6TTL cameras
are examples.  Maybe you don't like the choices, maybe like me, the M6 28
finder is not visible with glasses in a .72 body ( not easily, at least),
maybe they did it for time to market, stubborn Germanic marketing theories,
or otherwise.

But don't blindly say it can't be done or that they will not do it.....
Market demand focuses efforts on the "impossible" and or stubbornly
refused.....and the LUG is one way to getting the word to the uppers at
Leica that there is a marketing need that needs addressing.....

A higher Mag Digi-M would pump demand for the longer lenses, like the135 APO
Telyt, make focusing easier and more accurate for the Nocti and Summilux 50
and 75, and Summicron 75, and 90 lenses,  all valid reasons ( the  main
reason for the .85 M6) for a higher VF mag.

If market demand created a White M8, then market demand can create a higher
mag M8., M9, or M10. 

Whatever happens, never lose sight of the power of the consumer to get
products they want, onto the shelves....

Speaking of which.. the M9.... No IR filter required, no smaller sensor..
all impossible, or so we were told.....

Nonsense.  Marketing nonsense.

Want better low light response than an M8 or M9?  Complain, incessantly.

It will come... So will my higher mag VF..... 

Frank Filippone
red735i at earthlink.net


Of course, there has also been "the final word" from Hans Peter Cohn (no
digital M) and Steven K. Lee (upgradeable digital M) on many issues.  So if
you don't like what you hear on some issue now, wait for the next CEO.

Dante


Frank its been hashed over a lot elsewhere and the final word is from Stefan
Daniel. 





Replies: Reply from henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff) ([Leica] M9 improvements)
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