[Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread

[h_arche at yahoo.com (H. Ball Arche)]

When did they start using Ritalin for ADHD?

I don't seem to recall that Tommy being around after that. Nothing was made 
of the matter, at least where us kids would hear of it, but I think Tommy 
got yanked.

I taught in a private school once where we had a number of kids who were 
ADHD but unmedicated. The kids wouldn't have been allowed to continue in the 
public school system without medication, and their parents were affluent 
enough to send them to the private school and keep the kids off script. 

None of the staff was trained for this, and the school's supposed emphasis 
was on top-quality academics. However, the market base in that town was so 
small that to maintain enrollment we had to keep these kids (usually all the 
sibs came too, as part of the package of taking the ADHD ones). It made for 
a tough learning situation, and it was definitely true that just a small 
number of kids caused an adverse condition that affected whole 
grade-classes. 

I had one kid who, as soon as I wasn't looking, would start breaking things 
- I mean pick up a hammer and pound pound pound. This was in an art class. 
An incredibly smart and articulate guy, but so much energy that reason 
couldn't get past his restless need for violent motion.


----- Original Message ----
From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 6:06:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread


On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:56 PM, H. Ball Arche wrote:

> A vivid memory from 3rd grade: Tommy Mandel, bug-eyed and gagged, tied to 
> his seat with jump ropes, and STILL he had that desk skittering around the 
> room. We were all OK with it. He'd been put there by sweet, tiny, ancient 
> Mrs. Coles, a paragon of kindness.
> 
> It was 1964 and there wasn't a name for ADHD yet.


I wonder if gags and jump ropes worked better than  Ritalin?


Steve
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Steve Unsworth <lug at steveunsworth.co.uk>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 5:01:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread
> 
> Just a quick question Ted, did you treat your own children in the same way
> when they were at home? Lock them in cupboards for hours maybe, or banged
> their heads against a table if they answered a question incorrectly?
> 
> If not, do you think they would have been better people if you had?
> 
> We had some sadistic teachers when I was at school too. I remember one
> occasion in a German lesson where the teacher lost his temper with a pupil,
> put his head in the desk and repeatedly banded the top of the desk on the
> back of his head, not as a punishment but purely and simply because he'd
> lost both his temper and his control. Others were throwing board dusters
> around. Another - a P.E. Teacher - used to watch the young boys when they
> were taking a shower. I could go on.
> 
> I normally agree with you Ted, but I think you are wrong in promoting
> control by fear. If kids misbehave it's because of the parents IMHO.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On 2/11/09 22:02, "tedgrant at shaw.ca" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Jeeeeeeeeeeeeshhhhhhhh you know I'm one of those old guys who believes one
>> good smack deserves another if you still don't behave! It's called
>> discipline! And respect!
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