Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/11/09

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Subject: [Leica] m9 review
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:23:11 +1000
References: <C71D1BB1.58386%mark@rabinergroup.com> <2B32D10C-CE25-485C-8D04-E9EABD6CDEB6@ameritech.net>

Dante, when you started your day, you lost your car keys, someone stole your
parking space, the cafe was out of your favourite muffins, your coffee had a
fly in it and your pet hamster has leprosy and an unplanned pregnancy or
something??? ;-) ;-)
Sheesh!


2009/11/10 Dante Stella <dstella1 at ameritech.net>

> Mark, this is not about raw speed - though I know that makes for a better
> straw-man.
>
> 1.      David Keenan is dead-on correct about the M8/M9 architecture, which
> has a long shutter lag (six times that of an M3 and double that of a D3), 
> is
> slow to a second shot (should/when you need one), and can lock up fairly
> easily taking repeated shots, even without mashing down the shutter button
> on continuous.  I have years of experience with this on the M8 and agree
> with Keenan that unresponsiveness - particularly on a first shot - is
> inexcusable.  This is even more the case where a camera allegedly is
> designed to capture some "decisive moment."
>
> 2.      Two things that didn't get mentioned (and hopefully these have not
> carried on to the M9) are (a) the tendency of the M8 to wildly overexpose 
> if
> the shutter is pressed too quickly when the meter is "waking up" -
> apparently a bad habit carried over with the M7 meter - and (b) the 
> tendency
> not to fire the flash at all if the shutter is tripped too quickly after 
> the
> shutter is first pressed.  Then go to #1 above for the slow recovery from
> the resulting missed shot.
>
> If the M9 is in any way worse than an M8 in responsiveness, it's a fail.  I
> don't believe that a camera should have any ability to second-guess, ask 
> for
> a "do-over," or be asleep on the job when I need it.
>
> The decision when and if to take a picture is not an exercise for a
> committee.
>
> Unless that committee is a committee of one.
>
> Me.
>
> Dante
>
> ____________
> Dante Stella
> http://www.dantestella.com
>
> NO ARCHIVE
>
> On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:06 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
> We'll see if anyone else in the world especially a reviewer especially a
>> real reviewer thinks there's  a speed issue with the camera. As in the
>> camrea shoots too slow. Which he goes on and on about.
>>
>> I wasn't too offended till I got half way down the page and hit the
>> " The Major Flaw of the M9"
>>
>> He's holding the shutter button down until the thing slow up and stops
>> shooting at 2 frames per second and that takes  seven or eight exposures.
>> " Inexcusable" he says
>> !?!?!
>>
>> And he insists on shooting "compressed RAW + fine JPG" .
>> Gotta have both.
>> It's gotta be compressed
>> And he's gotta go on and on about it.
>>
>> The last time I held the shutter button down like that on even a DSLR was
>> never.
>> And I've shot skate boarders.
>>
>> But not Golf swing studies.
>>
>> There's a difference between camera  bloggers and  cameras reviewers.
>> And I'd think the digitaljournalist people would know that.
>> .
>>
>>
>> Mark William Rabiner
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Cheers
Geoff
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Replies: Reply from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] m9 review)
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