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Subject: [Leica] Pana 20mm f1.7 on the GF 1 - Howard
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:52:04 +0000
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Hi Philippe,
PMFJI but the 4/3 standard includes the capability of software corrections 
of -all- 4/3 lenses, the extent and exact correction is lens dependant so 
the information the camera requires is carried in the lens firmware, so you 
can rest assured that non electronic contact lenses can not be corrected, so 
the Leica lens files will be completely uncorrected.
Not all 4/3 bodies do all the corrections possible within the 4/3 standards 
though.
It seems to me that if a lens can be smaller, lighter or cheaper for similar 
performance by taking benefit of software for correction of appropriate 
aberrations then it would be foolish not to exploit this on a new standard 
lens mount.
Frank

On 2 Dec, 2009, at 12:16, philippe.amard wrote:

> Hi Howard,
> 
> I'm sorry I got distracted by the 4/3 crop and so on issue, and never 
> congratulated you on your self-portrait.
> 
> When I showed it to my son Tim, who now owns a G1,he went : wow ! which I 
> fully support, model; angle, BW conversion, are simply among the best.
> 
> 
> Now, you write that there's on board conversion and my question is; does 
> it keep converting even if the lens is an M or an R or any other than 
> micro 4/3 lens ? which would be a major impediment in my view. Hope not.
> 
> Renewed congrats and thanks in anticipation for your input
> 
> Amiti?s de Metz
> Philippe
> 
> 
> 
> Le 2 d?c. 09 ? 08:20, H&ECummer a ?crit :
> 
>> 
>>> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:44:52 +1000
>>> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Pana 20mm f1.7 on the GF 1
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> 
>>> Howard its an very effective environmental portrait. Bonus points for
>>> setting it up well for yourself too!
>>> I do see one fundamental characteristic of the innovative and interesting
>>> four thirds systems that bothers me though. That is of course that the 
>>> crop
>>> factor forces the use of twice as  wide lenses as traditional 24x36. By 
>>> that
>>> I mean cropping the centre out of a 20mm shot on a 24x36 camera frame in
>>> this case. Not unique to 4/3 of course and much more marked with typical
>>> tiny P&S sensors as far as hyper DoF too.
>>> 
>>> But I look at that neat little prime lens and think of it being faster 
>>> and
>>> much more compact than the typical zoom. I assume it ought to be 
>>> optically
>>> simpler and hence better corrected/sharper too? Those may all be due to 
>>> my M
>>> frame of reference perhaps which is not main stream.
>>> 
>>> In this instance I think it works really well but Auntie Phylis et al may
>>> not be so happy in the same seat, I guess.
>>> Maybe apples and oranges? Any thoughts out there?
>> 
>> Hi Geoff,
>> As several others have commented - when I put the 20mm on the GF 1 - I 
>> don't visualize its angle of view as a wide -
>> I just look at the screen and see an angle of view which is about the 
>> equivalent of 35mm lens in the 35 format.
>> What I like about the lens and the Panasonic 4/3rds system is that 
>> aberrations are programmed out by the software and
>> the final results look very, very good. How much of that is due to lens 
>> design and to software tweaking only Panasonic
>> knows for sure.  And I suspect they aren't telling. Thanks for the kind 
>> comment on the photo.
>> Cheers
>> Howard
>> 
>> 
>> 
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