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Subject: [Leica] Pana 20mm f1.7 on the GF 1 - Howard
From: r.s.taylor at comcast.net (Richard Taylor)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:37:40 -0500
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Philippe - This is my understanding also.  If the camera can't identify the 
lens, then no corrections are applied.  Some of the blog posts I've been 
reading suggest there might be some cross-compatibility issues between 
Olympus and Panasonic lenses, though, if they are not used on bodies from 
the same manufacturer.  
  
Regards,

Dick



On Dec 02, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Frank Dernie wrote:

> Hi Philippe,
> PMFJI but the 4/3 standard includes the capability of software corrections 
> of -all- 4/3 lenses, the extent and exact correction is lens dependant so 
> the information the camera requires is carried in the lens firmware, so 
> you can rest assured that non electronic contact lenses can not be 
> corrected, so the Leica lens files will be completely uncorrected.
> Not all 4/3 bodies do all the corrections possible within the 4/3 
> standards though.
> It seems to me that if a lens can be smaller, lighter or cheaper for 
> similar performance by taking benefit of software for correction of 
> appropriate aberrations then it would be foolish not to exploit this on a 
> new standard lens mount.
> Frank
> 
> On 2 Dec, 2009, at 12:16, philippe.amard wrote:
> 
>> Hi Howard,
>> 
>> I'm sorry I got distracted by the 4/3 crop and so on issue, and never 
>> congratulated you on your self-portrait.
>> 
>> When I showed it to my son Tim, who now owns a G1,he went : wow ! which I 
>> fully support, model; angle, BW conversion, are simply among the best.
>> 
>> 
>> Now, you write that there's on board conversion and my question is; does 
>> it keep converting even if the lens is an M or an R or any other than 
>> micro 4/3 lens ? which would be a major impediment in my view. Hope not.
>> 
>> Renewed congrats and thanks in anticipation for your input
>> 
>> Amiti?s de Metz
>> Philippe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le 2 d?c. 09 ? 08:20, H&ECummer a ?crit :
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 06:44:52 +1000
>>>> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Pana 20mm f1.7 on the GF 1
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> 
>>>> Howard its an very effective environmental portrait. Bonus points for
>>>> setting it up well for yourself too!
>>>> I do see one fundamental characteristic of the innovative and 
>>>> interesting
>>>> four thirds systems that bothers me though. That is of course that the 
>>>> crop
>>>> factor forces the use of twice as  wide lenses as traditional 24x36. By 
>>>> that
>>>> I mean cropping the centre out of a 20mm shot on a 24x36 camera frame in
>>>> this case. Not unique to 4/3 of course and much more marked with typical
>>>> tiny P&S sensors as far as hyper DoF too.
>>>> 
>>>> But I look at that neat little prime lens and think of it being faster 
>>>> and
>>>> much more compact than the typical zoom. I assume it ought to be 
>>>> optically
>>>> simpler and hence better corrected/sharper too? Those may all be due to 
>>>> my M
>>>> frame of reference perhaps which is not main stream.
>>>> 
>>>> In this instance I think it works really well but Auntie Phylis et al 
>>>> may
>>>> not be so happy in the same seat, I guess.
>>>> Maybe apples and oranges? Any thoughts out there?
>>> 
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>> As several others have commented - when I put the 20mm on the GF 1 - I 
>>> don't visualize its angle of view as a wide -
>>> I just look at the screen and see an angle of view which is about the 
>>> equivalent of 35mm lens in the 35 format.
>>> What I like about the lens and the Panasonic 4/3rds system is that 
>>> aberrations are programmed out by the software and
>>> the final results look very, very good. How much of that is due to lens 
>>> design and to software tweaking only Panasonic
>>> knows for sure.  And I suspect they aren't telling. Thanks for the kind 
>>> comment on the photo.
>>> Cheers
>>> Howard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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