Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/12/18

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Subject: [Leica] M9 Internal IR-Cut filter make the camera fragile to use?
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:42:06 +1000
References: <8c8849060912180102j3e923072n699bfa64072e7442@mail.gmail.com> <4563F7F7-54B0-434F-BE00-17FFAC3C1E15@ameritech.net>

Mine works fine including with my 24 and 28 wide open. The biggest problem
that people are reporting is simply that there aren't enough to go around
for all of the orders so far.
On the cover glass problem, there are six reports currently (from the
thousands of cameras delivered thus far), which is six too many of course.
Too early for the cause or causes to be determined. One camera was replaced
on the spot by the dealer (lucky customer that the dealer had another) and
one that was returned to Solms was repaired in 2 days. I hope the other 4
customers can soon report similar rapid resolutions.

2009/12/19 Dante Stella <dstella1 at ameritech.net>

> Bear in mind that replacing the sensor glass on an M8 requires a
> board-level replacement ($1,800) - so if this situation occurs with the M9,
> and you don't catch it in-warranty, you could be in for a world of hurt.  I
> don't think Leica changed any of its procurement practices.  I suspect that
> it simply lacks the clean room necessary to replace the glass to Leica
> cleanliness standards and can pass the massive cost of what should be a 
> $300
> repair to the end user.
>
> Oh yeah... M9, perfect the day it was released, no teething problems,
> investment for the ages, etc.  So we have red shifting, complaints about
> wide-angle lenses, complaints about incomplete IR blocking, and now broken
> cover glasses.  Every manufacturer of everything has problems early in the
> production run.  It's unrealistic to expect that a digital camera pushed 
> out
> the door in 18 months would be any different.
>
> And as my father said, "every car looks like a classic the year it comes
> out."
>
> Dante
>
> ____________
> Dante Stella
> http://www.dantestella.com
>
> NO ARCHIVE
>
> On Dec 18, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Jerry Justianto wrote:
>
> > After waiting for 3 months my M9 is arrived. But so sad fresh from the
> > box, the internal IR filter is broken.
> >
> > Look at http://www.pbase.com/jsjxyz/pad
> >
> > The dealer return it back to leica and ask me to passiently wait for
> > new delivery.
> >
> > Actually this accident raise me a question: is it due to the very thin
> > glass of IR-cut filter on top of the sensor make m9 a fragile camera
> > to be used?
> >
> > Would love to hear how m9 can pass the torture test of Tina Manley :).
> >
> > See L-camera-forum.con, actually this broken IR is not only my
> experience.
> >
> > Jsj
> >
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-- 
Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


Replies: Reply from dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella) ([Leica] M9 Internal IR-Cut filter make the camera fragile to use?)
In reply to: Message from jsjgroups at gmail.com (Jerry Justianto) ([Leica] M9 Internal IR-Cut filter make the camera fragile to use?)
Message from dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella) ([Leica] M9 Internal IR-Cut filter make the camera fragile to use?)