Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/01/04

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Subject: [Leica] 2010 now Avatar
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:50:11 -0500

> 
> 
> Douglas Barry wrote:
>> My eldest aged 32 and my youngest aged 17 both saw the film separately
>> this week. Both declared it overlong and with a too simplistic
>> storyline. While they were glad to have seen it, both of them said
>> that they wouldn't bother looking at it again. That said it won't put
>> me off seeing it, but IMAX and me don't get on so it will be a normal
>> cinema screen.
> storywise i think i'm sympathetic to the kids.  i liked aliens and
> abyss, but titanic and avatar less so. (i'm obviously in the minority on
> this planet). 
> 
> effects-wise, i think i'm sympathetic to you!  CGI by itself has the
> capacity to give me headaches and vertigo, combined with a very large
> screen and then eye strain from 3D... not good.
>> 
>> I remember my first experience of IMAX and feeling nauseous during it.
>> It was over in Paris at the La Defense dome and I wasn't the better
>> for the experience for a while. Mind you it followed a couple of days
>> after I went on the Star Tours ride in EuroDisney. Don't know if any
>> of you have sampled that particular experience, but you get into a
>> "space shuttle" which is really a room that moves on hydraulic motion
>> supposedly in synch with a video in front of you to give the effect of
>> a space trip. Sadly there's a millisecond delay and that millisecond
>> is enough to make me very ill. I was in the horrors after that!
>> 
>> Didn't effect my son or my wife, but, despite having enjoyed sailing,
>> motor & motorcycle racing, and mountain running - all of which hammer
>> the body - that millisecond of delay between eye reaction and actual
>> body reaction just makes me ill. Cannot hack it, but real
>> rollercoasters don't bother me.
> 
> I took Computer Vision in grad school (this was around the time that
> Lucasfilm/PIXAR's 60-second Genesis planet in Star Trek II The Wrath of
> Khan was wowing everyone).  Our professor liked to talk about nausea and
> how the eyes could exacerbate feelings of nausea.  he theorized when
> your eyes were communicating one thing to your brain and the rest of
> your body (such as inner ear balance) a different set of messages, it
> might be a sign that you had eaten bad food or funny mushrooms, and
> nausea the most appropriate means to rid yourself of what ailed you.
> when reading on a moving bus or train, your eyes see letters and
> pictures that are relatively still, while your body perceives large
> variations in motion, acceleration, and rotation.  and the opposite
> case, when viewing motion pictures of  flying or driving, you see
> apparent motion but  your body receives none of the accompanying cues.
> i definitely suffer from both problems.  so i don't take much public
> transportation, and i generally have a hard time watching "epic" cgi films.
> 
> -rei
> 
> 
>> 
>> Douglas
>> _________
>> Douglas Barry
>> Bray, Co. Wicklow
>> Republic of Ireland
>> 
> 


You took  Computer Vision in grad school and went to a 3d movie and sat in
the first row?

Mark William Rabiner





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