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Subject: [Leica] Oatmeal revisited
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:12:38 -0600
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Well, if that chart is right, the rice cooker keeps the rice at a safe
temp, so what is the big deal?

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
wrote:
>
> On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>
>> Spencer,
>> We have done it every day of our lives, nothing cooked in an electric
>> cooker, steam-cooked as it has been done for time immemorial down
>> here, and rice from the fields - no preservatives, no processing.
>> Everyone I know eats leftover rice - in fact it is called "payedi" or
>> "old", and is considered healthier than freshly cooked rice, and
>> traditionally eaten mixed with natural yoghurt (again home-made daily,
>> no processed stuff). I, too, am hearing about this things for the
>> first time! I can only think it must be caused by processing of one
>> sort or the other.
>
>
> Bacillus cereus and then the toxins that it makes, is the cause... this 
> organism ?is found naturally in many crops/foods, but is not generally 
> introduced by processing. It's a spore former, high enough heat can kill 
> the organism and inactivate the toxins...
>
> please see the answer to Spencer...
>
> http://www.nzfsa.govt.nz/science/data-sheets/bacillus-cereus.pdf
>
> I'd love to hear more about how it is avoided,
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Spencer Cheng <spencer at aotera.org> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2010, at 10:07, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>> as they say... B. cereus ? (Bacillus cereus)... rice is a major player, 
>>>> ways to get it, ways to avoid it....cook it hot enough, eat it, don't 
>>>> store it, don't reuse it....
>>> [...]
>>>> http://www.nzfsa.govt.nz/consumers/food-safety-topics/foodborne-illnesses/safe-cooling-of-cooked-rice/index.htm
>>>
>>> Interesting. I have eaten a lot of rice. Pretty well all of it cooked in 
>>> an electric rice cooker (before the keep warm feature) and plenty of 
>>> leftover rice cooled to room temperature and kept in the fridge for 
>>> several days for making fried rice. Never experienced these symptoms. 
>>> Must have gotten lucky I guess. I never head of this kind of food 
>>> contamination amongst all my Chinese relatives and friends.
>>>
>>> To throw out left over rice is to waste food. It's just not done.
>>>
>>> George, I like Tiger brand. It's what we use at home. The same one for 
>>> the last 15 years. For 2 people, a 5 cup model is plenty big. Features? 
>>> Turns on manually and turns off automatically when done. Nothing else 
>>> really matter.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Spencer
>>>
>>>
>>>
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