Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/01/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: > Steve, > There is no question of avoidance - I have never ever heard of it, or > of any problems whatsoever in eating old rice (of course, before it > goes 'bad' or starts decomposing) - this is a rice eating part of the > world - our staple is rice, you know. Nowadays, the leftover rice > tends to get refrigerated and reheated as well. So it is just weird. > My feeling is that this is excessive precaution for a rarely occurring > circumstance...After all, everything that we eat also has a capacity > to harm us in some circumstance or the other. Jayanand, that's for sure, but I can't do any more consultation or I'd have to send you a bill too, and I don't take Indian Blue Cross...cash only, sorry, (but I'm available in the future,) :-) Steve > Cheers > Jayanand > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at > gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: >> >>> Spencer, >>> We have done it every day of our lives, nothing cooked in an electric >>> cooker, steam-cooked as it has been done for time immemorial down >>> here, and rice from the fields - no preservatives, no processing. >>> Everyone I know eats leftover rice - in fact it is called "payedi" or >>> "old", and is considered healthier than freshly cooked rice, and >>> traditionally eaten mixed with natural yoghurt (again home-made daily, >>> no processed stuff). I, too, am hearing about this things for the >>> first time! I can only think it must be caused by processing of one >>> sort or the other. >> >> >> Bacillus cereus and then the toxins that it makes, is the cause... this >> organism is found naturally in many crops/foods, but is not generally >> introduced by processing. It's a spore former, high enough heat can kill >> the organism and inactivate the toxins... >> >> please see the answer to Spencer... >> >> http://www.nzfsa.govt.nz/science/data-sheets/bacillus-cereus.pdf >> >> I'd love to hear more about how it is avoided, >> >> >> Steve >> >> >>> Cheers >>> Jayanand >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Spencer Cheng <spencer at aotera.org> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Jan 14, 2010, at 10:07, Steve Barbour wrote: >>>>> as they say... B. cereus (Bacillus cereus)... rice is a major >>>>> player, ways to get it, ways to avoid it....cook it hot enough, eat >>>>> it, don't store it, don't reuse it.... >>>> [...] >>>>> http://www.nzfsa.govt.nz/consumers/food-safety-topics/foodborne-illnesses/safe-cooling-of-cooked-rice/index.htm >>>> >>>> Interesting. I have eaten a lot of rice. Pretty well all of it cooked >>>> in an electric rice cooker (before the keep warm feature) and plenty of >>>> leftover rice cooled to room temperature and kept in the fridge for >>>> several days for making fried rice. Never experienced these symptoms. >>>> Must have gotten lucky I guess. I never head of this kind of food >>>> contamination amongst all my Chinese relatives and friends. >>>> >>>> To throw out left over rice is to waste food. It's just not done. >>>> >>>> George, I like Tiger brand. It's what we use at home. The same one for >>>> the last 15 years. For 2 people, a 5 cup model is plenty big. Features? >>>> Turns on manually and turns off automatically when done. Nothing else >>>> really matter. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Spencer >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information