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Subject: [Leica] Great Moments in the History of Communism
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:34:33 +0000
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Hi Nathan,
whilst the glorification of any tyrannical regime is to be deplored the 
status quo before the revolution was not good, for normal Chinese citizens, 
either. It is still appalling now. The average Chinese has not been very 
lucky with the countries' leadership...
Frank

On 26 Jan, 2010, at 08:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> Geoff, what some people found ironic is the commemoration by a Western 
> company of a Communist takeover 60 years ago and the implied glorification 
> of the tyranny that followed. Nobody is saying that Leica should not sell 
> its products in countries with nasty governments like China or Russia, but 
> some of us do not like the further step of issuing commemorative editions 
> to glorify those regimes.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
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> 
> On Jan 26, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> 
>> I don't know anything about the Chinese market except that I did hear 
>> about
>> those commemorative limited editions made for sale there. The gaudy gold 
>> one
>> is not personally my cup of tea.
>> I don't follow why some people in other countries have taken offence 
>> (based
>> on political views or history) that Leica has made these available in 
>> China.
>> Seems like the countries of origin of our favourite cameras have some
>> historical significance as well. Of course there is a Leica store in 
>> Moscow
>> as well etc etc. As far as I know these are not even offered for sale
>> anywhere else but perhaps some may end up in other collectors' cupboards.
>> On the M8 and M8.2, certainly Leica has said that serial production has
>> stopped when the M9 was introduced. That doesn't preclude limited
>> 'commemorative' runs though.White M8s for example were certainly still 
>> being
>> assembled in Solms last July after M8 serial production had stopped.  I
>> imagine that these types of sales help cashflow for Leica for little 
>> effort.
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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