Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/03/09

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Subject: [Leica] Leica prices
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:48:13 -0800
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Reading various forum, I actually got the sense that most M9 are going to
"working" photographers.

Collectors just stay with special edition MP type of things (not that
there's anything wrong with special edition MPs).

I do expect the M9 would have similar percentage of owners who say "hey,
this is not for me, I can get an Canikon that do much better for $1800" and
then sell the camera at deep discount in the future. It happened with the
M6/M7/MP and M8 so the M9 should be no different.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:25 AM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at 
mac.com>wrote:

> I have no idea what age demographic is buying M9, .9 Noctilux, 21 mm
> Summilux, etc.
> But I do know the economic demographic - it's the top of the economic food
> chain.
>
> And if they happen to be old
> they probably have kids
> (and grandkids)
> either with money
> (or soon to inherit it
> along with grandpa's Leica gear).
>
> ;~)
>
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Philip Forrest wrote:
>
>  But how many of those M9's are going to new customers that Leica can
>> look towards as a source of revenue for the next 40 years vice already
>> established Leica users who are closer to or at retirement age?
>> Yes, they are a smaller company but do they want the marque aimed at
>> older photographers or do they want to gain a new generation of users?
>>
>> At the current prices, the number of people who are the children of
>> baby boomers buying M9's and their flagship lenses can't be more than
>> the low to mid double digits across the whole world. Yes, that's
>> conjecture, but I think it's an honest, educated guess because I'm a
>> part of that generation and know many photographers my age who can't or
>> won't touch new Leicas simply because of the price.
>> Phil Forrest
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:00:40 -0600
>> George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Depends who you ask;
>>> whether you ask
>>> those driving 20 year old Saturn's
>>> or
>>> those driving new BMWs MBs, Porsches, Escalades, etc.
>>> the answers will be different.
>>> ;~)
>>>
>>> Remember: Leica is a tiny company.
>>> They don't have to sell huge quantities
>>> (another reason the prices will remain high).
>>> They can't fill M9 orders fast enough
>>> in the worst economy and job market
>>> in many decades.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>> george at imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Philip Forrest wrote:
>>>
>>>  Our question is will there be
>>>> enough people in the coming 20 years who will both be financially
>>>> able and willing to buy such ridiculously priced goods to keep
>>>> Leica alive?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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