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Subject: [Leica] Leica marketing tour - for this guy it's madness
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:00:00 +1000
References: <4cfa589b1003091445j71d99733t6a996c1b41b83435@mail.gmail.com> <20100309182119.520e151b@linux-0ifi.site> <D9FDB380-99F4-405F-9EBD-D8B2040B0BA4@mac.com> <36172e5a1003091603v419d6991ga63a8e6a4d45a8c3@mail.gmail.com> <4cfa589b1003091654h232a0662pe4f1a455876c53b6@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, don't go if you don't see any value in it.  I guess they will fill the
seats? But if you were planning to buy a new M lens or S thingie or
whatever, sounds like you get your money back and you if wanted to see the
gear which might not be available where you are......
No doubt you can pick the gear up for a brief play at trade shows and the
like, as Chris has just done. Anyone know how many S dealers have been
appointed in your localities? Just three in Australia which are respectively
1,000kms, 1,700km and  4,400km from here. None of them have got any M9s or
the most sought after lenses in stock either by the way!

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 10 March 2010 10:54, Adam Bridge <abridge at gmail.com> wrote:

> IF someone hasn't a clue about digital workflow then it MIGHT makes
> sense. But I looked at the "courses" and thought WHAT??? And they're
> charging $100 for this? With no hands-on time beyond the camera?
>
> Maybe there are professional photographers who have never seen a
> computer before, have no clue about a digital workflow, but really it
> IS 2010.
>
> This is marketing fluff in the guise of education. At least to this guy.
>
> Adam
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hmm, well I guess that everyone on their mailing lists got sent this
> info.
> > When I read it it said that the eventst topics included
> > Camera and lens orientation,
> > troubleshooting and maintenance,
> > understanding the digital imaging process,
> > configuring your computer,
> > organising and storing you images,
> > Lightroom introduction,
> > Color management introduction,
> > methods to produce better work in less time,
> > strategies for profitability.
> > Also you get a voucher that you can use towards buying an M or S product
> > from your US dealer. So perhaps they are returning the fee to you in that
> > case?
> >
> > For sure you can go into a dealer that stocks what you want and get a
> basic
> > hands on for free. I guess that you can hire something for a day if like
> > George you don't need the rest and want to shoot a camera in your studio
> for
> > the day? When there is stock, and if you have a pro dealer near you for
> the
> > S stuff, naturally.
> >  Locally I got to play all I wanted with the S2 for a couple of hours and
> > filled my 4GB SD card to take home. I had the X1 as well but you can only
> do
> > so much playing over a companionable long lunch with the M9 to shoot with
> as
> > well.
> >  Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> > On 10 March 2010 09:34, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If the $100 - $150 let me handle them
> >> alone for a solid hour, in a studio situation,
> >> and/or take them for an hour long walk,
> >> and keep the cards full of images I'd make;
> >> I'd seriously consider paying the dues.
> >>
> >> If it buys me ten minutes with them in my hands
> >> while someone yaks in my ear about them.
> >> ? absurd to the max.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> George Lottermoser
> >> george at imagist.com
> >> http://www.imagist.com
> >> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> >>
> >> On Mar 9, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Philip Forrest wrote:
> >>
> >> hahahahahaha.
> >>> So it's THAT kind of stupidity that Leica is banking on. Goodness
> >>> gracious. If I really want to see an M9, I can find one or two in the
> >>> hands of a few people in Philly. or I can paint up my M4 for a day, add
> >>> some gaffer tape for additional thickness, an LCD protector with a
> >>> superslide underneath taped to the back door. My M9.4 would have cost
> >>> me less than $10USD.
> >>> Phil Forrest
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:45:30 -0800
> >>> Adam Bridge <abridge at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I got a flyer in the mail yesterday from good ol' Leica USA touting
> >>>> their big road show tour.
> >>>>
> >>>> Great! I'd love to see the latest gear.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh - but I have to pay them $100 to participate if I want to see the
> >>>> M9 and $150 for the S2.
> >>>>
> >>>> I found myself almost irrationally irritated by this. It's tone-deaf
> >>>> to the times, at least in the part of California, and they don't
> >>>> appear to offer anything (besides possibly some hands-on experience) I
> >>>> can't get from the net and a visit to my dealer.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm just shaking my head.
> >>>>
> >>>> Adam Bridge
> >>>>
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