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Subject: [Leica] three questions: C41 b/w film; Mamiya DM22; why no US version of GF1 w 20mm kit?
From: rmcclure2 at woh.rr.com (rob mcclure)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:45:25 -0400
References: <19b6d42d1003272213l512b02f2m2f28f7ddcd82d132@mail.gmail.com> <20100328170006.GE417@selenium.125px.com>

Vince -- If you send them out for prints or enlargements, there is a  
huge difference in how printing companies deal with the film. I use  
mostly Kodak BW400CN and find that instant printers like Walmart,  
etc., unless they know what they are doing --which many of them don't,  
will tend to use the standard
C-41 color settings and the prints can have a greenish cast.  I've  
been using MPIX.com or Kodak Gallery with good result.  Haven't used  
Ilford for quite some time but used to have it printed on black and  
white paper with excellent, grainless results.

Rob

On Mar 28, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Tim Gray wrote:

> On Mar 28, 2010 at 01:13 AM -0400, Vince Passaro wrote:
>> I'm contemplating C41 b and w film. I've used the Kodak and liked it
>> sometimes and not others (dependong on factors I was too ignorant  
>> to learn
>> how to control at the time, I suspect). My impression though was  
>> that Koday
>> was the best of them but I do recollect an Ilford that some people  
>> liked...
>> perhaps it was that 50 ASA of theirs?
>>
>> Anyone using C41 and feel knowledgeable and opinionated enough to  
>> declare
>> differences and preferences?
>
> Both films are ISO 400, very fine grained (no real grain to speak  
> of), and also do very well if over exposed.
>
> The main difference between the two is that the Ilford (XP2 Super)  
> has a gray base, while the Kodak (BW400CN) has an orangish base,  
> like C-41 color film.  The Ilford base makes it easier to use in the  
> darkroom with B&W paper because you don't have to print through the  
> orange base, which can also affect the contrast if you are using VC  
> paper.  If you are scanning, I'd say buy whichever one is cheaper or  
> more easily available.
>
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In reply to: Message from passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro) ([Leica] three questions: C41 b/w film; Mamiya DM22; why no US version of GF1 w 20mm kit?)
Message from tgray at 125px.com (Tim Gray) ([Leica] three questions: C41 b/w film; Mamiya DM22; why no US version of GF1 w 20mm kit?)