Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/04/02

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Subject: [Leica] Deer and Goose
From: gregj_lorenzo at hotmail.com (Greg Lorenzo)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:34:46 -0600
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Marty Devenny writes:

>
> I'm well aware of CWD Greg, and the changes in the last 4 years - the
> disease is quite slow moving for a disease of a mobile wild host; in
> the 20 years or so since it was identified it hasn't spread very far
> at all. This map:
> http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fuseaction/about.map is up to date
> at 3/10 and is based on a wide range of surveys tools, not just from
> hunted deer.
 
I agree that the above map is more up to date then the 1st one and I see CWD 
is shown as having being found (state wide) in NY State on this map. CWD 
(from memory) was 1st identified in NA more then 40 years ago (1968) and 
first identified in the wild NY state deer population in 2002. 

> Also note that the prion that causes CWD is unrelated to those that
> cause disease in humans or other animals, making it unlikely that it
> was originally derived from consumption of human foods.
> http://wildlife.state.co.us/NR/rdonlyres/BF3BE1C5-5835-47E3-8737-5AA566AA5245/0/EID_CDWPotTrans.pdf
 
Not sure what you mean by 'human foods'? I was referring to man-made feeds. 
The presumed origin of CWD (and BSE) in my neck of the woods is sheep 
scrapie. Some feed companies until a few years ago were using animal 
byproducts including sheep by-product in cattle feed (no longer legally 
allowed here since the discovery of BSE in an Alberta cattle herd).
 
CWD has been a very significant problem in farm raised Elk both in Alberta, 
Saskatchewan and in the three northern US States to the south of us. Most 
ranchers that were raising elk here have either eliminated their herds or 
gone out of business. 

> This review, although from 2002, is very interesting:
> http://www.oie.int/boutique/index.php?page=ficprod&id_prec=81&id_produit=619&lang=en&fichrech=1
>
> Marty
 
Agree, interesting, esp. wrt CJD in humans.
 
Greg Lorenzo
Calgary, Canada                                           
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