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Subject: [Leica] German angst
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan Dimitrov)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 07:13:26 -0700
References: <C7DC2682.2F054%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <C7DC48FC.60A10%mark@rabinergroup.com> <m2u19b6d42d1004022325xa8c3c3a6g96708299563fa544@mail.gmail.com> <147E7A90E3354F7BBB32699B3ABD5CF0@syneticfeba505>

In some way this word play is an important element in understanding the 
generated photography. It's kind of like being a newbie on a construction 
site. You're ribbed to the breaking point. How you deal with it, tells the 
other guys just how far to trust you, and/or how much BS there is in you. 
Some make it, some don't. One's reactions also determine which crew will 
take you on. In many cases the difference between making a good living, or 
other cases just barely working, anonymously, out of the Hall. The LUG , in 
many ways, carries on in a like manner. Those who have shown what they are 
made of, positively, will get visited by LUG friends from around the world, 
go on trips together, share personal emails, etc.
S.d.


On Apr 3, 2010, at 6:41 AM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> The problem here is......
> 
> "YOU FOLKS ALL KNOW BETTER WITHOUT BEING TOLD!! TAKE THE DAMN TOPIC TO THE 
> FORUM AND GET OVER IT!"
> 
> You are wasting everyones time who have no interest in this drive that has 
> absolutely nothing to do with photography! Read my lips "IT ISN'T 
> PHOTOGRAPHY! TICK OFF EACH OTHER IN THE FOUM! THANK YOU !
> 
> AND DON'T GIVE ME THE CRAP ABOUT USING MY DELETE KEY! ACTUALLY I DO AS 
> IT'S SO EASY TO "SELECT ALL -- DELETE ALL!!"
> 
> Now excuse me as I have some pictures to attempt! Now isn't that what we 
> are supposed to be doing and discussing?
> Thank you, have a nice weekend! Rain, sleet, snow or sunshine! Throw in 
> the odd flood!
> Take some " HAPPY SNAPS! THANK YOU VERY KINDLY GOOD SIRS! "
> Dr. Ted
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Passaro" <passaro.vince at 
> gmail.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] German angst
> 
> 
>> I can't believe we've been getting away with this thread for more than 13
>> hours. Spencer scolded us before but the thing is Spence, its
>> "inappropriate"-ness is part of why it's appealing.  You know how it has
>> Organ Donor on yr license? Some of us have that, and some of us also have
>> Permanently Innapropriate. (Often appears as *PermInn*).
>> 
>> So you like that Werner Herzog?  Man he's good.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> > I've got that book, and his Berlin Diary too and I agree, he didn't > 
>>> > think
>>> > highly of them. Living there during Hitler's rise he likely saw the > 
>>> > worst
>>> > aspects of German culture and character though. I wonder if he felt > 
>>> > that
>>> was
>>> > before he lived there or if he became anti-German after seeing what the
>>> > Nazis did? The city I live in (Fort Wayne, Indiana) is heavily German.
>>> 80%
>>> > of the white people here are of German ancestry. Being of Spanish and
>>> Scots
>>> > ancestry, I felt kind of out of place and still do. I Miss New Mexico,
>>> felt
>>> > a home there. The Germans here are no different morally than anyone > 
>>> > else
>>> > though, I don't think they're bad people. A lot of people here speak
>>> German
>>> > in public and at home, like us Hispanics do in Santa Fe. The Newspapers
>>> here
>>> > published in German, not English, until World War I.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Chris Crawford
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have no problems with any group of people which is lucky because I
>>> identify with being quite a liberal and they'd kick me out in no time.  I
>>> have friends from all walks of life and cultures.  Some of them won't 
>>> even
>>> talk to me. When I visited Europe twice I liked everybody and they liked
>>> me.
>>> Now I'm learning to sing in Spanish in the choir and that's  a language
>>> I'll
>>> the least familiar with but its spoken a lot in NY where I am now.  So it
>>> will be a good thing.
>>> Anti Semitism is a European phenomenon for the most part. But I think
>>> they're getting over it.
>>> But to make generalizations which is  a mixed bag the Germans were some 
>>> of
>>> the nicest people I've met in Europe.
>>> And they spoke German.
>>> And made Leica's.
>>> I brought home a tube of mustard.
>>> 
>>> And I like German Movies.
>>> Those guys are funny.
>>> And my favorite cake is German chocolate cake and my favorite potato 
>>> salad
>>> is German Potato salad.
>>> Why do I like  this stuff? Becaue I'm the smartest and most tasteful guy
>>> you're ever going to want to meet!
>>> 
>>> And German Tofu Bratwurst.
>>> >From free range Tofu.
>>> 
>>> And I like gals with blonde hair and there are more of them in Germany 
>>> than
>>> there are in Sweden I read. So don't buy the wrong plane ticket.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [Rabs]
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
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