Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/04/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Gene, Indeed I meant to point out that not only was this on a 4/3 but the Elmarit-M (chrome) is from 1961 and the Nikon at least fifteen years later; coatings had developed etc etc. The Elmarit is certainly sharp and has a beautiful, somewhat subdued but very rich and nuanced way with color. It needs a better camera to hang on as I find it too front heavy to reliably hand-hold on the G1. The test arose because some kind of mysterious accident that occurred to my bag when I wasn't looking (i.e., I have no idea) completely destroyed a Nikon 35/2 I had in the side pocket and did some damage to the focus ring (and I suspected possibly jarred the elements) of the Elmar-C, which was in a puch just below the Nikon 35/2. The Elmar-C in black and white film had proved itself as sharp as the Elmarit (Note to Rabs: this judging by 100/200 percent views of the scanned negs -- not real 20" prints). In this test it was not as sharp until f5.6 and above; indeed the Elmarit was sharper at f2.8 than the Elmar could manage at f/4. It shall have to be looked at, as it's a far better size for the G1. Anyway as I lumbered off to the bedroom to do the test (we have a long view from there, over a park and across downtown to the Long Island Sound and beyond), I noticed the 105/2.5 was loaded and ready on the D40x so it came along as well.... Vince On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:22 PM, <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote: > Vince, > > On the Elmarit 90, using it on a 4/3's camera will degrade its performance > compared to a D40x. Which Elmarit 90 are you using, the M or R version? > Also on the 200/4 Telyt, I have one and considering its age, it is a great > lens, very sharp and good contrast. I am amazed at how good it is when I > consider when it was designed and built. > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vince Passaro" <passaro.vince at gmail.com> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2010 11:48:54 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Leica] Most portable 135 -- elaborations > > Well on the 200/4 'astounding' front, I guess that word applies to my > reaction to it since I too got it for about $50 and, unlike Nikon's faster > 200's, I'd never heard boo said about it or read boo written about it. It > has a very rich treatment of color and if you take a picture of some trees > a > hundred or more yards away you can count the leaves and tell which ones are > younger. So it astounded *me* at least. > > On the 105/2.5 I was quite surprised that it looked better than the Elmarit > 90. I intend to repeat the test and also to take a light to the inside of > the Elmarit to see if there's some otherwise invisible haze or something. > At 200 and 400 percent the differences were almost radical. Now what I > failed to say but that must be a factor is that the Nikon was on my D40x > and > the Elmarit on the G1. The comparative crop sizes then are 180 for the > Elmarit and almost 160 for the 105. The G1 sensor is 12MP and Nikon is 10, > on a larger sensor. I don't know enough about sensor technology or the ways > the different cameras process the images to make any determination of > whether, or how, those things factor into the outcome. But whatever > advantage the Nikon has for being larger one would think G1 makes up for > being far newer. > > And yeah, one gets a little ga-ga this time of year around the university. > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:31 AM, <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote: > > > > > Vince, > > > > > > While I agree the Nikon 105/2.5 is a great lens, I had one many years > > ago, > > > and certainly better than the 90 Elmar C, it does not outperform the 90 > > > Elmarit R, imho. > > > > > > > Gene, Vince is an Academic; it is late in the semester. They don't get > out > > much this time of year. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Sonny > > http://www.sonc.com > > http://sonc.stumbleupon.com/ > > Natchitoches, Louisiana > > > > USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >