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Subject: [Leica] Wow, the last word on Bokeh, from Zeiss
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:24:25 -0500
References: <y2t19b6d42d1004132122s5a52c6av4a9772176365db41@mail.gmail.com><C7EC0F7A.614A9%mark@rabinergroup.com><m2l19b6d42d1004142148m8f3a8eax37ffffae520c35a3@mail.gmail.com><212A97DA-BC45-418B-9BBF-B2292315D0B8@gmail.com><w2x19b6d42d1004150915q1f3c40e9lea21ade0419bd981@mail.gmail.com> <557381C4-7AEF-4B7B-97D5-F7B93009CB89@gmail.com>

They've come a long way from the one I used to own, a 73mm f/1.9 Hektor.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Wow, the last word on Bokeh, from Zeiss


>
> On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Vince Passaro wrote:
>
>> I thought the 75 Summicron was an ASPH lens... no?
>
>
> you are right, just looked it up...75 summicron ASPH...
>
> I have the 75 Summilux...is there also a 75 summarit?
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Steve Barbour 
>> <steve.barbour at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rabs,
>>>>
>>>> That's what I'm sayin'. You know the history, you don't miss a trick. 
>>>> And
>>> as
>>>> I remarked in another thread, if hanging out on the LUG has taught me 
>>>> to
>>>> really worship one lens from a distance, ie seeing the pics but not
>>> coming
>>>> close to using or owning it, it's the 75 Summicron ASPH.
>>>
>>>
>>> is there such a puppy?
>>>
>>>
>>>> So I'm with you.
>>>> Plus my own aesthetic reaction to pictures causes me not to give a crap
>>>> about bokeh 99 percent of the time. Watching Apocalypse Now Redux with 
>>>> my
>>>> class today, there are moments of ghosting when they're shooting into 
>>>> the
>>>> low sun where you can count the blades on the aperture, easily. It's
>>> still
>>>> one of the three or four greatest American films.
>>>>
>>>> I realize that's a stupid example but it was on my mind....
>>>>
>>>> Vince
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> There is an ecclesiastical position in most diocese of the Roman
>>> Catholic
>>>>>> Church called the Censor Librorum. It's this dude's job to determine
>>>>> whether
>>>>>> a text contains any errors of doctrine. "Censor" doesn't mean he (and
>>>>> yeah
>>>>>> it's always a male surprise surprise) cuts anything or prevents
>>> anything
>>>>>> from being published it just means he says whether or not the written
>>>>>> material is free of errors of doctrine. (In the middle ages if he
>>> didn't
>>>>>> sign off the work would not be suitable for distribution and the 
>>>>>> author
>>>>> if
>>>>>> he resisted correcting it would probably be burned at the stake but
>>> they
>>>>>> didn't have toilets then and now we do; long time ago.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which means he has to be really good at *catching *errors of 
>>>>>> doctrine;
>>>>> has
>>>>>> to see the often underlying or imputed doctrinal implications of
>>> things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So for this reason I nominate Rabs as the LUG's Censor Librorum. It
>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> even occur to me to relate that passing "asph" comment to the hotly
>>>>> debated
>>>>>> issue of whether the contempo Leica glass is "hard" etc. But of 
>>>>>> course
>>>>> he's
>>>>>> right -- it was a direct hit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're not reading it in the context of the litany of BS writing on 
>>>>> the
>>> un
>>>>> Leica like hard or harsh look the aspherics gave when they came out a
>>> dozen
>>>>> years ago.
>>>>> I simply had the 16x20's printed on Ilford double weight fiber paper 
>>>>> to
>>>>> prove it wrong.
>>>>> Leica has been on a winning streak with their progression of their 
>>>>> lens
>>>>> design. They don't miss much. Its not likely that a bunch of guys 
>>>>> buying
>>>>> and
>>>>> selling stuff on gear lists are going to point out the determent of
>>> their
>>>>> ways to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> [Rabs]
>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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