Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/05/09

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Subject: [Leica] M9 RAW's and B&W
From: shino at panix.com (Rei Shinozuka)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 16:01:34 -0400
References: <1108650835.504061273432617805.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs12>

I believe DNGs  may embed  preview images and thumbnails, which in your 
case might have been converted to B&W.

-rei

On 05/09/2010 03:16 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:
> Erik,
>
> Unfortunately I cannot help you, as I shoot dng only and then convert to 
> b&w in photoshop.  I do not shoot both dng and jpeg at the same time.  Are 
> you sure you are downloading the dng and not just the jpeg?  Seems strange 
> that all you see is the jpeg settings when you look at them (.dng) in the 
> computer.
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erik van der Meulen"<erik at avondel.com>
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Sent: Sunday, May 9, 2010 1:03:02 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: [Leica] M9 RAW's and B&W
>
> Dear knowledgeable Leica-group,
>
> I seem to be missing something in the way my M9 handles RAW's.
>
> As long as I keep my 'Compression' setting fixed on 'DNG', I have no means
> of altering the 'Color saturation' setting. This remains on 'Standard'. 
> This
> seems to me 'normal behavior'; I get the 'raw' data from the sensor.
>
> Now this get interesting; I followed the suggestion found on
> http://www.overgaard.dk/leica-M9-digital-rangefinder-camera.html to set the
> 'Compression' to 'DNG&  JPG' and the 'Color saturation' to 'Black&  White'.
> This way the screen on the M9 nicley shows B&W images which I have shot. I
> was under the assumption that this came from the JPG files recorded along
> with the DNG.
>
> I have no need for the JPG's other than the preview function, I want to do
> the actual B&W conversion manually in Lightroom on the DNG. So I delete the
> JPG's before I import the DNG's files into Lightroom. Much to my surprise 
> in
> the import dialog window, the pictures do show up in B&W! Only after the
> import they seem to be converted to colored pictures.
>
> Now what puzzles me is that I would have expected a DNG file to be the 
> same,
> no matter that the camera saturation settings would be. Further, if this is
> not the case (as it indeed appears), how come I can only make adjustments 
> in
> relation to JPG settings on the camera?
>
> Obviously I am missing something here. If anyone can point me in the proper
> direction, that would be greatly appreciated!
>
>    



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