Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/05/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Jayanand they had an APO 280 in prototype form at least by last September. I have a feeling that Doug Herr would be willing to carry it around ;-) Cheers Geoff http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman On 21 May 2010 01:05, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote: > George, > Wouldn't long fast lenses as required for wildlife be too heavy to be > practical for an S2 system - you would require sherpas or vehicles to carry > them to location. God knows that 35mm long fast lenses are heavy enough! My > guess is that Leica is targeting studio, wedding and fashion. > Cheers > Jayanand > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:25 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com > >wrote: > > > First impression: I truly wish I could afford any "medium format" digital > > solution. > > I've spent only an hour with a CFV39 on my 500CM and three lenses. > > This is my only hands-on reference to what the reviewers talk about and > > show. > > > > Add'l impressions: I see the S2 as being in a class by itself; > > neither a D[35]SLR nor a medium format modular back; > > yet a very interesting specialized hybrid. > > > > Personally, short of winning a lottery allowing me to own both S2 and > > CFV39, > > I'd go for the modular back because I'd like to also make use of my view > > camera system. > > The work that people currently pay me to do would make far better use of > > the modular back. > > I do product (including macro), architectural interiors, as well as > > portrait and event work. > > I'm sure I could make the S2 work in those venues - but it wouldn't be > > ideal. > > I'm not aware of Leica's plans re: tilt/shift for the S2 - but I'd not > want > > to spend $30K and wait. > > Maximum flexibility of the system is what my "jack of all views" > > photography requires. > > > > If I were a dedicated fashion, wedding or wildlife (again waiting for > long > > glass) shooter > > interested in providing medium format quality, > > I'd have to seriously consider the ergonomics of the S2 > > as being better suited to that work than the modular back systems. > > > > As far as the relative image file quality the reviewers discussed: > > it seems most of that was very much about firmware, post processing > > software > > and glass comparison. The Leica glass is apparently top shelf. > > > > > > Regards, > > George Lottermoser > > george at imagist.com > > http://www.imagist.com > > http://www.imagist.com/blog > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > > > > On May 20, 2010, at 9:22 AM, John Nebel wrote: > > > > George, > >> > >> I too read them a while back and just reread them. What are your > >> impressions? > >> > >> John > >> > >> George Lottermoser wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks John. > >>> I'd read those reviews back when they first posted them. > >>> Yet, happy to review them again. > >>> Regards, > >>> George Lottermoser > >>> george at imagist.com > >>> http://www.imagist.com > >>> http://www.imagist.com/blog > >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > >>> On May 19, 2010, at 7:39 PM, John Nebel wrote: > >>> > >>>> Here is the link: > http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12243 > >>>> > >>>> George Lottermoser wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Thanks John. > >>>>> I definitely understand scale, slowness and "thoughtfulness" > >>>>> as they relate to the use of different size camera systems. > >>>>> Do you find that the S2, while definitely not an R, > >>>>> is also not a 'blad with digital back. > >>>>> I'd assume that it lies somewhere between them; > >>>>> probably slightly closer to the 'blad > >>>>> in terms of longer focal length and slower lenses. > >>>>> I'd love to read the reviews you've mentioned a couple times > >>>>> if you can locate the links. > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> George Lottermoser > >>>>> george at imagist.com > >>>>> http://www.imagist.com > >>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog > >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > >>>>> On May 19, 2010, at 6:48 PM, John Nebel wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> George, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yes, any camera requires quite a bit of thought, but one selects the > >>>>>> things that are worth thinking about. S2 makes the cut. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I appreciate looking into a big photo and seeing lots of detail, > it's > >>>>>> life. Howard's trolley picture comes to mind. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Until recently that was more in the large format realm. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The idea that a hand held camera can routinely do this is pretty > >>>>>> intriguing. One wants to use it like an R, but it is much slower to > work > >>>>>> with, however, it doesn't require a Jeep load of equipment like a > P2. With > >>>>>> thought and practice one could achieve some pretty good flexibility > with the > >>>>>> S2. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I did notice that two pros who wrote an S2 review used a tripod, so > >>>>>> I'm not going to feel too clumsy for being a slow learner. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It is not a cheap camera, but given its possibilities it is not an > >>>>>> expensive camera. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> John > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Have you seen D. Medvedev's short presentation on photography? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://en.rian.ru/video/20100211/157843279.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> George Lottermoser wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> okay John, > >>>>>>> yet so were all the other Leicas. > >>>>>>> I assume you're having some fun with the question. > >>>>>>> Yet, I wonder if you find some of the daimons' design choices > >>>>>>> actually "?requires quite a bit of thought," > >>>>>>> compared to other cameras. > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> George Lottermoser > >>>>>>> george at imagist.com > >>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com > >>>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog > >>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > >>>>>>> On May 18, 2010, at 5:47 PM, John Nebel wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> It was designed by camera daimons and one must think the way they > do > >>>>>>>> to use it properly. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >