Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/08/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I don't usually comment on those things, but concerning the DMR, I talked to a Leica guy in Paris a few years back, I wanted to know why Leica had abandonned what seemed to me a very good idea. According to this man, Leica does NOT own the DMR design and the owners (the guys that own Imacon now) were absolutely NOT interested in selling the patents or producing the DMR. 5000 units had been manufactured. Sounds plausible to me? All the best from the south of France! Tarek ------------------------------------------------- Tarek Charara <http://www.tarekcharara.com> NO ARCHIVE Le 5 ao?t 10 ? 05:16, George Lottermoser a ?crit : > Geoff - I hear you and your boots on the ground reporting from the > mouths of those in control. > Loud and clear. > I don't "expect" an R10 - nor even "hope" for one - given what you > and others have reported > over the last years. > > Yet - conditions do change. > > Do you (or anyone else) know how many S2 bodies have been made and/ > or sold? > > Has the number yet exceeded the number of DMRs manufactured? > We may very well see the S2 system fail in the market place. > or > We may see it succeed and stimulate competition in its class. > > Regards, > George Lottermoser > george at imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com > http://www.imagist.com/blog > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: > >> But George The S2 is already there to compete against those >> options. You can >> see that the lenses are only slowly trickling to the market. >> On those (13 month old) Euro prices the R10 projected retail for a >> body >> would have been USD7900 to USD9200 (just as direct currency >> conversion >> today). >> Then of course it needs to have a new AF lens range. The dedicated >> R lens >> owners very likely would buy one even so but you guys are a smaller >> sub-set >> of the (too small) possible market as Stefan has said. >> But never mind, I only just report what Leica Camera has said. I >> was 15 ft >> from Herr Daniel when he said it to probably a couple of hundred >> Leica >> enthusiasts and I saw the jaws drop ;-) >> Courtesy of Andreas who runs the L Camera Forum, here again is the >> official >> translation and a link to the original German as well. >> < >> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/89591-summary-q-session-stefan-daniel-during.html >>> >> >> Let's hope then for all of the R folks that they have changed their >> mind and >> the numbers have changed too. They've made some more money since >> then ;-) >> Cheers >> Geoff >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> >> >> On 5 August 2010 01:33, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> wrote: >> >>> And if they would now present >>> in the wake of the M9 success >>> and the high end S2 option >>> a $6,000 24x36 DSLR >>> with the new, polished "FINE" Leica brand; >>> it would certainly "have a reasonable chance." >>> >>> I'm looking at $5 - $14K options >>> from PhaseOne, Hasselblad, Leaf >>> every day. >>> >>> I have to believe others are as well. >>> >>> Regards, >>> George Lottermoser >>> george at imagist.com >>> http://www.imagist.com >>> http://www.imagist.com/blog >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 3, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >>> >>>> In his R10 cancellation announcement, Stefan Daniel told us that >>>> it >>> would >>>> have had to sell for 6000 to 7000 EURO. >>>> For comparison an M9 list in Europe is 5495 EURO >>>> Cheers >>>> Geoff >>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 August 2010 06:31, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> yep - that's all we're look'n' for >>>>> keep it simple >>>>> >>>>> ;~) >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> George Lottermoser >>>>> george at imagist.com >>>>> http://www.imagist.com >>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 3, 2010, at 3:23 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> as long as it was full frame and had a bright view finder. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information