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Subject: [Leica] 2500 iso now rant
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:14:18 -0700
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and I thank you  Bob, Sonny, Marty for your varied and important 
contributions to this group, and to my ability to photograph,


Steve


On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Bob Adler wrote:

> I don't particularly like cats. I enjoy a flower shot occasionally. But I 
> ALWAYS look at your images for the reasons you state as I enjoy any images 
> that are thoughtfully created and portray everyday experiences with 
> uniqueness and passion. So I look at (and seldom comment) on almost every 
> one of your posts Sonny. 
> 
> When I was young we used to go crabbing. The crabs at the bottom of the 
> basket would always be pulling the crabs at the top down. It didn't appear 
> that they did this to get out; just to pull the other ones down to their 
> level. So there's thems that shoot and thems that talk. And thems that 
> shoot and talk. Each seems to bring the conversation to their level of 
> comfort. 
> 
> So the crux of this long and ridiculous post is that everyone is going to 
> talk about what their most "expert" in and what they enjoy most (I guess 
> some like to bash Leica). You'll just keep posting what your expert in and 
> I'll keep enjoying that and other aspects of this diverse list.
> 
> So I'm not sure it's devolution; more like structured and somewhat 
> predictable diversity. Each adds to the richness of the list. For some 
> reason this thread hit your button, but you'll keep on enjoying your 
> equipment and showing your passion for photography/light (hopefully with 
> us). And I'll keep enjoying it very much.       
> Best,
> Bob
> 
> Bob Adler
> http://www.rgaphoto.com
> 
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I agree that it's the #1 area for improvement for Leica.
> 
> In B&W, I can get much finer grain than this out of Delta 3200 or TMZ
> at comparable EIs.
> 
> 
> Yeah well, I probably could have done the shot better with a faster lens,
> and maybe with my M6 and Fuji 1600 Natura, but I was trying to see what I
> could get out of the 21mm Elmarit, (new to me)  That's the only reason I
> posted the equipment, the shutter speed, iso and f stop. I'm pretty happy
> with the outcome.
> 
> Why does the criticism here often drift  from the quality of the shot, or
> the accomplishment to a thrashing of Leica?
> 
> I often shoot pictures that include cats and I shoot pictures that feature
> flowers.    The funny thing is that some people avoid my pictures, and
> others who shoot the same subjects, because they "don't like cats" or 
> "don't
> like flower pictures."
> 
> Hey folks, in my case,  it aint about the cats and it certainly not about
> the flowers.
> 
> It is about the picture, the lighting, and the composition, and seeing what
> I can do with my equipment, my lack of mobility, and what is at hand to
> photograph.
> 
> --
> Regards,
> 
> Sonny
> http://www.sonc.com
> http://sonc.stumbleupon.com/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> 
> USA
> 
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