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Subject: [Leica] Format output obviousness
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:39:58 -0700
References: <C8B5EDFA.3626%mark@rabinergroup.com>

You tell that to Michael Reichmann:

"At one point I found myself looking at raw files on-screen and not being
sure if I was looking at Hasselblad P45+ files or Canon G10 files. That
includes at 100% onscreen enlargements."

and

Over a two day period I invited photographers and local industry
professionals to come to my print studio and look at a series of 13X19"
prints from an *Epson 3800* printer made on *Ilford Gold Fiber Silk* paper
which were then hung side by side on my floor-standing print viewing box.
This collection of seven people included experienced photographers, people
from the commercial print industry, and other trade professionals. Between
them there was at least 200 years of photographic industry shooting and
printing experience.

In most cases I did not tell them what they were looking at, simply saying
that I had been shooting with two cameras, and that they should divide the
prints (about a dozen) into two piles ? Camera A and Camera B. They were
asked to judge resolution, accutance, colour reproduction, highlight detail,
dMax, and any other factors that they wished to consider.
The Results

In every case no one could reliably tell the difference between 13X19"
prints shot with the $40,000 Hasselblad and Phase One 39 Megapixel back, and
the new $500 Canon G10. In the end no one got more than 60% right, and
overall the split was about 50 / 50, with no clear differentiator. In other
words, no better than chance.


http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml





On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com>wrote:

> Every portfolio I've ever had or stack of prints; and every stack of prints
> other photographers have shown me I've always known which ones of my prints
> were 35mm, Medium format, or sheet film and I didn't have to bother telling
> them and they didn't have to bother telling me; as we all knew at first
> glance.
> I can normally easily tell the difference between a full frame digital
> image
> even at low output and cropped format digital output and I think many
> people
> can with any experience. And certainly the difference between that and
> point
> and shoots with sensors the size of my pinky nail. And the 2x crop in
> between. And medium format digital blows me right out of the water at least
> my eyeballs.
> If you can't tell the difference between your large and smaller format
> digital output the time to hang it up is now.
> Take up audio.
>
> --------------------
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> mark at rabinergroup.com
> .
>
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