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Subject: [Leica] Format output obviousness
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:40:26 -0400

And there's a reason that in the gallery Doug has his prints in none of his
prints are going to be up against a G10; with its 9.5 mm diagonal which
means that's the normal lens. And that reason is you'd have to be a towering
idiot to use a camera with a format that small for serious land scapes or
nature photography. The prints next to it of larger formats will blow it
away. Make it look like ridicules amateur hour. And I don't care what
Michael Reichmann says. His job would-be be apparently to level the
landscape so he's got more to test and articles to write not offending any
particular manufacture.

--------------------
Mark William Rabiner
Photography
mark at rabinergroup.com


> From: Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:07:32 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Format output obviousness
> 
> Richard Man wrote:
> 
>> You tell that to Michael Reichmann:
>> 
>> "At one point I found myself looking at raw files on-screen and not being
>> sure if I was looking at Hasselblad P45+ files or Canon G10 files. That
>> includes at 100% onscreen enlargements."
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> Over a two day period I invited photographers and local industry
>> professionals to come to my print studio and look at a series of 13X19"
>> prints from an *Epson 3800* printer made on *Ilford Gold Fiber Silk* paper
>> which were then hung side by side on my floor-standing print viewing box.
>> This collection of seven people included experienced photographers, people
>> from the commercial print industry, and other trade professionals. Between
>> them there was at least 200 years of photographic industry shooting and
>> printing experience.
>> 
> (snip)
>> 
>> In every case no one could reliably tell the difference between 13X19"
>> prints shot with the $40,000 Hasselblad and Phase One 39 Megapixel back, 
>> and
>> the new $500 Canon G10.
> 
> A 13" x 19" print doesn't come anywhere near testing the medium-format 
> back's
> capabilities.  Add some cropping, less-than-optimal field conditions, and
> bigger prints, and you'll see more differences in the prints.  Besides, how
> many lenses are available for the G10?
> 
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> 
> 
> 
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